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> Is Shia Kaafir?, Decide Yourself!
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post May 22 2008, 06:20 PM
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5. All the people rejected Islam after the death of the Prophet except three. Miqdad, Abu Zar and Salman Farsi. (Quran Majeed by Maqbool Hussain Dehlevi, Page No. 134)

i already quote one ref. here from sunni book that only 3 sahaba,s wera on right path because they accept Mola Ali a.s wilayat and the 4th sahaba came back on right path but he was gumraah...and he also write the names of 3 sahabas woh wera on right path...Miqdad,Abu Zarr And Suleman farsi.
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post May 22 2008, 06:23 PM
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11. Ali is God. (Jila-ul-Ayoun, Vol. No. 2, Page No. 66)

It,s not written GOD in that book...writer wrote Ali a.s is RABB...and RABB means Sardar,Syed etc...is this is kufr to ask RABB to someone ?? than read Surah Yousaf Allah said 4 times RABB to king of egypt....so tell me who is kafir ??
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post May 22 2008, 06:31 PM
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12. The Hujjat ( Ultimate proof ) of God can not be established without Imam. (Asool Kaafi, Vol. No. 1, Page No. 177)

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read this book..writer says that imam is a hujjat e Khuda..
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“The earth is never devoid of him who stands for Allah with a proof (Hujjah)”
http://hadith.al-islam.com/Display/Display...=0&Rec=5314
and here is the online link of sherha e bukhari hadith no. 3193
so where is the problem now ??
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post May 22 2008, 06:41 PM
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14. Shaitan was the first to sworn the oath of allegiance from Abu Bakr in the mosque. (Israr-e-Muhammad, Page No. 30)

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ok read ur book..on this page writer wrote that "Imam Abu Hanifa said that Iblis and The Great Truthful one Abu Bakr were equal in Iman".
so mate when ur imam said that iblis and abu bakar are same than obiously iblis sworn the oath.
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post May 22 2008, 06:46 PM
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15. "An accusation of poisoning to Prophet by Ayesha and Hafsa". (Jila-ul-Ayoun, Page No. 118)

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ok read ur book tareekh ul khulfa written by imam sayuti...he also admit that Rasool Allah saww and abu bakar died by poison...so tell me who did this if not ayesha & hifsa ??
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40. "Ayesha was hypocrite". (Hayat-ul-Quloob, Page No. 867)

Read Surah Tahreem and you will accept that she was really hypocrite if you believe on Quran.
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post May 22 2008, 10:20 PM
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QUOTE (mufti-e-azam @ May 22 2008, 08:50 AM) *
40. "Ayesha was hypocrite". (Hayat-ul-Quloob, Page No. 867)

Read Surah Tahreem and you will accept that she was really hypocrite if you believe on Quran.

har wo shaksh jis ka ye aqeeda hay k hazrat aisha nouzbillah munafiq thin wo kafir hay
or quran nay to khud un k pakdaman honey ki gawahi di hay
lanti loog sirf shia hain jo ese gandey aqeedey rakhtey hain
lanti insan tumharey nazdeek to quran hi pura nai hay
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post May 22 2008, 10:24 PM
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QUOTE (Waqas @ May 22 2008, 10:24 PM) *
mufti sahab ek hi message main sab answer karo bar bar reply nahin karo

sorry janab actually mein issi terha ki aik aur forum per bhi tha magar wahan page upload kernay ki space limited thi to mein samjha yahan bhi waisay hi ho gi to iss liye alag alag posts kien.
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QUOTE (malang009 @ May 22 2008, 10:20 PM) *
har wo shaksh jis ka ye aqeeda hay k hazrat aisha nouzbillah munafiq thin wo kafir hay
or quran nay to khud un k pakdaman honey ki gawahi di hay
lanti loog sirf shia hain jo ese gandey aqeedey rakhtey hain
lanti insan tumharey nazdeek to quran hi pura nai hay

aur janab ab mein aap ko aap ki sahih bukhari se bhi ayesha k baray mein hadees dikhaon ??
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yeh sahih bukhari ka title page hai jis k scan pages mein pehli post mein bhi chuka hoon aur aik ab hadees bhi issi book se doon ga.
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ab khud se perh lo Rasool Allah saww ne ayesha k ghar ki teraf ishara ker k kaha k yahan fitna hai...yaheen se fitna shaitan k seeng ki terha nikalay ga...to ab batao jis ko Allah munafiq kahay...Rasool Allah saww fitna kahein uss ko koi acha keh sakta hai bhala ??
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QUOTE (malang009 @ May 22 2008, 10:20 PM) *
har wo shaksh jis ka ye aqeeda hay k hazrat aisha nouzbillah munafiq thin wo kafir hay
or quran nay to khud un k pakdaman honey ki gawahi di hay
lanti loog sirf shia hain jo ese gandey aqeedey rakhtey hain
lanti insan tumharey nazdeek to quran hi pura nai hay

janab jahilana baatein nahi kertay...ayesha ki jo paak-damani ki ayat utari thi woh sirf aik waqiya k liye utari thi na k uss ki poori life k baray mein...aur dosri baat koi ayesha ki paak-damani per ilzam nahi laga raha...charachter aur emaan 2 alag baatein hain...jahilon ki terha baatein mat kiya karo...aur tumhara apnay nazdeek kiya khayal hai ?? kiya abhi tumhari books se tahreef k proof kam hain jo abhi tak hawa nahi nikali ?? aur doon scan pages kiya ?? tum sabit karo k Surah Tahreem ghaalt hai aur sahih bukhari ki hadees ghalat hai..sabit ker saktay ho kiya ya sirf zubani hi teer maro ge ??
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22. According to Shia's nothing can remain hidden from the Imams, they have a complete knowledge of past, present and future. (Asool Kaafi, Vol. No. 1, Page No. 260)

janab agar yeh kufr hai to phir yeh kufr aap ki books mein bhi mojood hai lakin kiun k woh abu bakar o uamr k liye hai bas issi liye tum loagon ko woh kufr nahi lagta
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yeh aap k umar ki kahani hai jo bethay to madina mein hain magar unn ko hazaro miles door jang hoti nazar aa rahi hai aur yeh madina mein bethay unn ko order de rahay hain k yahan jao aur wahan jao...kiya yeh unseen knowledge nahi hai ??
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aur yeh dekho umar aur abu bakar ki future ki baatein...ab inn per kiya wahi nazil hoti thi jo itnay saalon k baad honay walay waqiyat ka zikr ker rahay hain ?? yeh kufr nahi hai kiya ??



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dekh munna ye orkut to hay nai yahan par kuch rules hain
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post May 23 2008, 11:40 AM
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as wr wb...

Mash Allah hanzala Bhi Na to tafseel sa hakeekat bayan kar deee....

Ham sab un sa atafak kartay hay ka shia sirf kafir he nahee badtareen kafir hay....
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admin sahab ye mutai e azam ki posts delete karain yahan sey totaly out of topic hain please
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Mufte e Azam
to janab orkut sa say chup kar yaha is ghar ma pana leya howa hoooo... ha ha ha ha


Malang 007
ara malang 007 aap mufte e azam ke aik post ka rona roo raha hoooo... is out of sence ke out of topic postooo say to pura orktu bhara para ha...

in ke nazar ma joo bak bak moo ns nekal deee bas who hee jawab ha..
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QUOTE (Muavya @ May 24 2008, 06:04 AM) *
Mufte e Azam
to janab orkut sa say chup kar yaha is ghar ma pana leya howa hoooo... ha ha ha ha


Malang 007
ara malang 007 aap mufte e azam ke aik post ka rona roo raha hoooo... is out of sence ke out of topic postooo say to pura orktu bhara para ha...

in ke nazar ma joo bak bak moo ns nekal deee bas who hee jawab ha..


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Oh to Mufte G aj kal yaha Apna Elm ka Parchar kar raha hay....


huzoor orkut pay aap ke Elmee khoobeyoo ko dunya na dakha ha... ab yaha bhi dakh lay gay.....

hamara joo Doosta mufte e Azam ko nahee jantay who jald he yaha un ko jan lay gay...
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