very very funny to note that shia so called imam have childrens name abu bakar, usman and umer.

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1. Aisha bint Musa al-Kadhim: This was the daughter of the seventh Infallible Imam of the Shia, namely Imam Musa al-Kadhim. The esteemed Shia scholar, Muhammad Taqi al-Tustari, states in Tawarikh al-Nabi wa al-Aal [p. 125-126] that Imam Musa al-Kadhim had seventeen daughters and they were named Fatima al-Kubra, Fatima al-Sughra, Ruqayyah, Ruqayyah al-Sughra, Hakima, Aisha, Zaynad and Khadijah Shaikh Mufid also mentions her in al-Irshad [p.303]. Two other strong Shia references are Umdat al-Talib of Ibn Anba [p. 266 {footnote}] and al-Anwar al-Nu`maniyya of Ni`mat Allah al-Jazaïri [v.1, p.380]. The name of this daughter is also mentioned in Kashf al-Ghumma of Abu al-Hasan al-Irbili [v.2, p.90 and 217].

2. Aisha bint Ali al-Rida: This was the daughter of the eight Infallible Imam of the Shia, namely Imam Ali al-Rida. The famous Shia Qadi, Ibn al-Khashab, said in Mawalid Ahl al-Bayt: ï؟½(Imam) Al-Rida had five sons and one daughter. They were Muhammad al-Qani, al-Hasan, Jafar, Ibrahim, al-Hussain and the daughter whose name was Aisha. This is quoted by Muhammad Taqi al-Tustari in Tawarikh al-Nabi wa al-Aal [p.128].

3. Aisha bint Ali Zayn al-Abidin: This was the daughter of the fourth Infallible Imam of the Shia, namely Imam al-Abidin. This fact is referenced in Kashf al-Ghumma of Abu al-Hasan al-Irbili [v. 2, p. 334].

4. Aisha bint Jafar as-Sadiq: This was the daughter of Imam Jafar as-Sadiq, the sixth of the Infallible Imams of the Shia. This is also recorded in Kashf al-Ghumma of Abu al-Hasan al-Irbili [v. 2, p. 373]).

5. Aisha bint Ali al-Hadi: This was the daughter of the tenth Infallible Imam of the Shia, namely Imam Ali al-Hadi. This is mentioned by Shaikh al-Mufid in al-Irshad [p.334] and also in Kashf al-Ghumma of Abu al-Hasan al-Iribli [v.2, p.334]

6. Aisha bint Jafar ibn Musa al-Kadhim: This was the grand-daughter of the Infallible Imam of the Shia (i.e. the daughter of the Imam son, Jafar ibn Musa). This is stated by Abu al-Hasan al-Umari in al-Mujdi [p.109].
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Syed Alijan Jaffery Isphani (Ex.Shia)

One is amazed to see that the Shiites weep over the martyrdom of Imam Hussein(ra) whereas they never weep over the martyrdom of his brother Abu Bakr ibn Ali ibn Abi Talib and over the martyrdom of his son Abu Bakr. Those who bear those names are from the Ahlul Bayt also. Why negligence? Is it because they have names which are disliked by the Rafadhis and by announcing it to their Shiite listeners would expose the love of the Ahlul Bayt to the companions especially to Abu Bakr and Umar?

Shiite muhaditeen like Abu Faraj al-Isfahani in his Muqatil at-Talibeen-p.88,142,188; Al-Arbali in his Kashful Ghumamah vol.2,p.64; and Majlisi in Jila el-ou’ioun 582 stated that amongst those who were martyred with Hussein in Karbala were Abu Bakr ibn Ali ibn Abi Talib and Abu Bakr ibn Hussein ibn Ali ibn Abi Talib.
Why doesn’t the ceremonies held during Ashoora not mention the names of the following who were martyred with Hussein:

Umar ibn Ali ibn Abi Talib

Abu Bakr ibn Ali ibn Abi Talib

Uthman ibn Ali ibn Abi Talib

Abu Bakr ibn Hassan ibn Ali

Umar ibn Hassan ibn Ali

Abu Bakr ibn Hussein ibn Ali

Umar ibn Hussein ibn Ali

Uthman ibn Hussein ibn Ali.

Is it because that the likes of Abu Bakr and Umar wiped out the Sassanid arrogance and for this reason mentioning their names are unbearable?

Muhammad Ali Mu’zi, an Iranian Shiite researcher in France has stated with pride: “The basic fundamentals of the Zoroastrian religion has entered into Shiaism even in some minute issues. The marriage of Imam Hussein with the daughter of the last Sassanid Empire is a symbol of ancient Iran as Shahrbano became the first mother or lady for the Iranian nation. And this relationship marked the brotherhood between Shiaism and the ancient Magian Iran.”

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Syed Alijan Jaffery Isphani (Ex.Shia)

Shias Are Kafir... No Doubt about That.... Well Post Brothers......... Great Effort. JazakAllah

hum kafiron k kafir kafir khuda humara :p

tum log bache ho..bal k bachon se choty ho..aik sawal baar bar phirr bar baar..or phirr wahi jawab baar baar..lykin samjh phirr bhiin nahin aati..jo bhii koi new aata hay..wahii ratty rataye sawal karta hay..waisy aik tarah se acha hay..mujhy kafii logon k pm nd mailz aai hain..wo shiyat k bary main jan na chahty thy..or main umeed karta hon..INSHA ALLAH un main se kuch HAQ yanii shiyat pa chukay hain :D
Jazak Allah..main un k name yahan likh deta..magar shaid wo khud yahan aakar Ilan kar dein..
Allah se Dua hay k baqi bhii jitny Ahl E Sunat bhaii hain unko Haq samjhny ki Tofeeq dy..Ilahi Ameen

Jehan Shah,

Agar hum bacchay hain tou hum bacchon ko he un sawalaat k jawabaat darkaar hain jo pichli posts main poochay gaye or aaj tak un ka jawaab nahi mila!!


Zera un logon k naam tou batayein jinhon ne aap se darkhaast ki hai k unko shia mazhab k baaray main batayein...or wo kon sey log hain jo shia mazhab ikhtiaar ker k murtad ho k wajib-ul-qatl ho chukay hain???

Ahl-e-sunnat bhi keh rahay ho or shia mazhab ikhtiaar kerney k liye duayein bhi maang rahay ho...kia kehnay hain janaab aap k...Nahi Baba hum Ahl-e-Sunnat he theek hain or Janab-e-Muhammad ur RasoolAllah (SAW) ki sunnaton per he mer mitna chahtay hain......

Asalam _0_ Alikaum all

Main nay yeh posts parthi hain and main yahan apni opinion batana chati hoo kay Kay kisi hindo ko bhi kafir nahi kahna chayn Shia log tu phir bhi Allah ka naam laytay hain Allah kay Rasool Hazrat Mohammad SAW) ko mantay hain namaz parthaty hain bhalay un ka tariqa alag ho par humain koi haq nahi kay hum unhain kafir kahay i think hamian bas Allah ka shukar ada karna chayy aur Allah ki ibadat karni chayn kyu kay hamain nahi pata kay Allah kis ki ibadat qabool karta hain meray pas itni knowlegde nahi fiqa jafferiya kay baray main par maeri soch hain kay humain kisi ko bhi galat alfaz nahi kahna chay akhri Rasool ki sunnat pay ammal karay Allah ki ibadat karayn kisi ko bura kahna Allah aur us kay Rasool(SAW) ko pasand nahi

Walikumossalam...

Allah ko tou Yahoodi bhi maantay hain....Christians bhi maantay hain....tou kia un ko Kaafir k bajaaye musalmaan kaha jaayega?.....Hindu ko kaafir kiun na kaha jaaye ye baat samajh nahi aayee.....aap ka concept aap ka personal hai Quran or hadith main bohot si aisi misaalein milti hain jin main Kaafir ko Kaafir keh ker he pukara gaya hai.....sab sey barri misaal Surah-al-Kafiroon ki pehli aayat hai......bahar haal aap he batayein k Kaafir ko kaafir k bajaaye kia keh ker pukara jaaye??? kiun k musalmaan tou wo hain nahi....In english you can say non believer, same meaning as Kaafir..tou aap non believer keh dein, ya inkaar kerney waalay keh dein kiya farq parrta hai??? Meri behan baat he saari yehi k aap jaisay bohot sey logon k paass Fiqa Jaafria k baaray main knowledge nahi ...isi liye misconceptions hoti hain.....or ye topic isi liye shuru kia thaa k is Fitnay k baaray main logon ko aagah kiya jaaye.

Jee bilkul hum bhi bilkul yehi kehna chah rahay hain k Allah k Rasool (SAW) ne kisi k buray alfaaz istimaal kerney sey mana fermaya hai.....or Shion ne tou ALLAH TALA sey ley ker ASHAAB-e-RASOOL (SAW) tak ko nahi chorra bal k wo tou in sab per sabb-o-shatam kerna sawaab samajhtay hain...yehi in ka mazhab hai.....

AOA,

mene aj yeh topic prha hy. mere khyal sy is topic ko wind up kr dena chahie kyunkay is pr log boht bhes kre gay. mazhab par bhes krna mumkin nahi. Han "na farmani" karne wala hum man sy nhi hay. bs plz wind up this topic... baki app koi aur dosra topic start kr sakte han.

shukria..

Asalam _0_Alikum
Main bas itna kahna chati hoo kay ap log itna zaroor sochyga kay Allah kay kisi banday ka dil dhukana gunnah hain Allah nay farmaya hain kay agar tum nay kisi ka dil dhukaya kisi ki haq talfi ki tu akhirat main jab tak wo mera banda maaf na karayga main nahi karoga Allah nay shia ya sunni nahi kaha aur my dear allz apkay kafir kahnay na kahnay say kisi shia par koi farak nahi partayga haan apkay shia ko kafir kahnay say un ki dil azarii hogi mainn nay kayi sunni logo ko mannat mantay hoi aur shiaoo ki majliss atend kartay dekha hain agar shia kafir hain tu q jatay hain majlis main mannat mantay hain ????? kisi mandir main ko nahi jatay mannay ??? sunni ho ya shia ya koi aur sab Allah kay banday hain Allah kay peda karda hain hamain har hall main shukar ada karna chayinn bas abu hanzala apka jawab main deyna chaooo gii kay yahoooddiii Allah ko mantay hogay par kaya wo Allah kay Rasool ko mantay hainn???so plz it is my request please weind up this topic hamain is baray main aur kuch nahi kahna this is may last post on this topic

Meena_Ahmed>

Aap k opinion ki hum qadar kertey hain lekin humari bhi dil aazaari hoti hai jab Shia hazraat Sahaba Karaam (RA) k baaray main mughallizaat baktay hain, Quran ko na mukammal samajhtay hain or 12 Imamon ko Rasoolon k barabar rutba detey hain, bal k ye samajhtay hain k Quran ko dar-asl Hazrat Ali (RA) per naazil hona thaa lekin ghalti sey Hazrat Muhammad (SAW) per naazil ho gaya tou humara dil bhi kurrhta hai. k khud ko na sirf musalmaan bal k momineen kehlanay waalon k ye kaisay aqaaid hain...Shiaism or Islam k darmyaan koi baat agar mushtarik hai tou mujhe bata dein main abhi admin sey is topic ko band kerney ki darkhaast kerta hoon lekin dar haqeeqat aisa nahi...Jo baatein ek insaan ko musalmaan kehlanay k liye zaruri hain un sab ki sab ka shia hazraat inkaar kertey hain tou phir musalmaan kahan sey huay? Beyshak Allah k banday sab hain lekin musalmaan kehlaanay k wo he log mustahiq hain jo Islam ki sharaait poori kertay hain.

Sab sey pehley shuru kerein Kalma-e-Tayyaba sey, Musalmaano ka kalma alag Shion ka alag.
Quran k baaray main shion ka ye aqeedah hai k Quran na mukammal hai or asal Quran 12waan imaam ley ker aayein gey.
Rasool Allah (SAW) ki Naboowat sey inkaar k Naboowat darasl Hazrat Ali (RA) ka haq thaa lekin mili Aap (SAW) ko. Or ye baat keh ker Allah Tala per bhi bohtaan baandha....
main kia kiya aap sey arz keroon? aap beyshak is topic main saari details perrh sakti hain or Shia mazhab ka mutaalla ker sakti hain. Shia mazhab main julooson, matam, muta, jhoot, taqiya, Zul Jinaah ( wo ghorra jis ki pooja moharram k dino main ki jaati hai), Sahaba karam k baaray main zabaan daraazi k ilawa or kuch nahi.

Jo hazraat Shion ki majlis main jaatay hain wo bhi unhee main sey hain....

Shia hazraat sey mandarja zail sawaalon k jawaabaat derkaar haink zera batayein k

Hazrat Hussain (RaziALLAh Anho) ne Karbala k maidaan main Ya Ali Madad kaha ya Ya Allah Madad?

Sabar kia ya matam?

Jehaad kia ya Taqiya?

Parda sikhaya ya beypardagi?

Quran parrha ya marsiya sunah?

Namaz parrhi ya ghorray ki pooja ki?

Muta ka hukm diya ya nikaah ka?

Paighambron ko aa'la jana ya Imaamon ko?

Matam kiya ya ALLAH k hukam per jaan lutaa ker Falaah paayi??

shia kafir joo na maney wooo bhi kafir,but unhe kehne se ek baar hum sunni bhi dkhen kya hum bhi kafir tu nai,na namaz ki fikar,sood khori hum mein hai,be imani hum mein kya ye taleem hai hamari?

[size="5"][/size]meena sister ap k view kisi had tak thek hain but mujhe ek baat batao ap sunni hona?
agar apki ami ko koi galli de apko kaisa lagega?m tu uski jaan le longa,ye shia umol mominin ko jo hum sab ki maa hain hazrat aisha sidiqa(R.A) ko galiyan dete hain umar faroq,usman ghani,hazrat abu bakar ko...ap kaise unhe keh rai ho k ye nai i think ap ne kabhi quran pak nai parha,us m saaaf likha hai jo sahaba ki shaan m gustakhi kare wo kafir hai,aur rai baat hinduo ki tu behan un k kufar m kya shaq hai apko jo ap unhe bhi nai kehti?meri yahoo id hai waqcriminal@yahoo.com agar ap ko discuss kerna hai tu msg kerdena...

Shia ko kafir nakhyeen too kia musalman keh kar uss kay sath shadi bihaa shur kar dain ?? Shia ko Kafir ko kafir nahi kahyeen gay too yaa bhut saryee Sahi ul aqeeda loogoon koo bhee gumrah kar dain gay

Yes they have the right to live, we can talk with them , but should understand them first ! This is all about teling people whats right and whats wrong !





Waqar you are 100 % right ! we cannot let them speak this rubbish , what ever their ill faiths are.. they can keep it to them selves but ... barking about the Shaba is part of their so called iman ... we canot let them do it , thats why we should understand them and we should stop them at all costs !

all m leaving C.Y ap log chahay kuch bhi samjhooo i dn't care agar ap logo ko lagta hain kay ap logo kay kafir kahnay say kafir koi farak parta hain so carry on
TXZ
Allah Hafiz Forever

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Aslam alikum,

Please admin remove this topic from coolyarforums.. because all discussion on this topic is like a bhes beacuse all persons give thier opinions in other manners, so plz wind up or remove this topic

thanks