Ibadat 2 Posted April 21, 2005 (edited) Assalamualikum aaj kal BARA RABIULAWAL ki tayyarii Pakistab main buhat josh o kharoosh se manaii ja rahi hain , esa josh o kharoosh ke buss tayyariiyan hi hain jis ke ane ki khushi manai ja rahi hain US ke kahey par amal bilkool nahi ho raha hian... 2 topics merey nazar se guzrey hain ... jo main chau ke aap sab zarooro parhiey... ye link aik website ka hain : ARticle or ye UMMAT akhbar ke Reportar "SELANI" : 12 Rabiulawal TAke cAre every one of ur Eman Wasalam Edited April 21, 2005 by Ibadat Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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**LaLa_1** 0 Posted April 21, 2005 Assalamoalikum Allzzz .... I have been through wid these articles and i have read all of them......ab main kuch izafa kerna chahoonga taa k baat sub ko clear ho jaye... 12 Rabi ul Awwal ko jisey Logon ne Eid Milaad UnNABI (SALALLAHO ALAIHE WASALLAM ) ka naam dey dia hai...is ki koi shari Haisyat nahi hai ....agar kisi Aurat ka Baita ek taareekh ko paida hota hai or oosi Taareekh ko fout ho jata hai tou kia wo ghum manayegi ya oos ki padaaish ka jashan manayegi \???? Kia humaaray Nazdeek NAbi Akram (SALALLAHO ALAIHE WASALLAM ) ki itni bhi haisyat nahi k hum ne oon ko Wisaal k din ko Eid ka naaam dey dia?? or naye kaprey pehen ker jashan mananay shuroo ker diye........!!! Waazeh rahay K NAbi Akram (SALALLAHO ALAIHE WASALLAM) ki paidaaish k baarey main Ulamaa -e-Karaam ki akseryat ka qol ye he hai k NAbi AKRAM (SALALLAHO ALAIHE WASALLAM) ki wilaadat-eMubaraka 9 Rabil ul Awwal ko hui or wisaal k baarey main koi ikhtilaaf nahi ...bal k sub ulama is baat per mutaffiq hain k Nabi Akram (SALALLAHO ALAIHE WASALLAM) ka wisaal 12 Rabi-ul-awwal ko he hua!!! AAP (SALALLAHO ALAIHE WASALLAM) ne irshaad fermaya k " main ne tum ko ek roshan shahrah per chora hai jis ki raat bhi din ki maanind hai, merey baad jo is sey hatay ga, halaak hoga!" Afsos k saath kehna perta hai k Aaj k musalmaan doosri kayee Khud sey Ijaad kerda baaton ki tarah EId Milaad UNNABI (SALALLAHO ALAIHE WASALLAM) ko bhi Deen ka hissa samajh ker kertey manaatay hain or isey sawaab ka mojib samjha jata hai........haalaan k Deen main is cheez ka koi hissa nahi ..... Irshaad fermaya k :" Her naya kaam (DEEN SAMAJH KER ) kerna Biddat hai , or her biddat gumraahi hai or her gumraahi jahannam main ley jaanay waali hai....!!" Nabi Akram (SALALLAHO ALAIHE WASALLAM) sey mohabbat ka taqaaza tou ye hai k OON K mubarak tareeqon ko apna ker dunya or aakhirat ki kaamyaabi haasil kerein.......Ishq-e-Rasool k ye jhootay Daawaidaar jo Masjidon sey baa aawaaz-e-Buland Mics k zerye sey Ishq-e-Rasool (SALALLAHO ALAIHE WASALLAM) ka ailaan kertey hain or baahar nikal ker OOnhi ki SUnnaton ka khoon kertey hain..........kia ishq-e-Rasool ka taqaaza ye he hai????????????? nahi bal k ALLah k ahkaamaat ko Nabi AKram (SALALLAHO ALAIHE WASALLAM) k mubaarak tareeqon per poora kerna he asal Ishq-e-Rasool hai..or aisa kerney waala he Saccha aashiq-e-Rasool hai.................... Yahan ye log kehtey hain k ye tafarqa baazi phailaa rahay hain is tarah ki baatein ker k .....main ye kehta hoon k ye Tafarqa baazi nahi bal k in Mushrikin ka asal chehra Logon ko dikhana hai...jo Alal Ailaan apnay shirk ka izhaar kerteyy hain.................or ALLah sey maangnay k bajaaye Mazaaron or Khaankaahon per jaa ker Jaali peeron faqeeron sey maangtay hain haalaan k ALlah k Nabi (SALALLAHO ALAIHE WASALLAM) ne Fermaya :" tum mujhe na berhana jaisay k Nasaraa ne Eesaa ibn-e-Maryam ko berhaa dia , yaqeenan main Allah ka banda hoon or tum mujhe Allah Ka banda or oos ka Rasool kaho" or ye Biddati Hazraat Allah K RAsool (SALALLAHO ALAIHE WASALLAM) ko noori kehney lag gaye jab k insaan ko tu Allah ne ashraful makhlooqaat banaya thaa..goya inhon ne Nabi Akram (SALALLAHO ALAIHE WASALLAM) ko insaan sey bhi kam ter derja dey dia ( NAOOZOOBILLAH)........ "Sahal Bin SAAD (RAZIALLAH ANHO ) sey riwaayat hai k Nabi Akram (SALALLAHO ALAIHE WASALLAM) ne fermaya k main Hoaz-e-Kosar per betha honga jo wahan aayega wo Hoaz-e-Kosar ka paani piyega or jis ne ek dafa is ka paani pee lia oosey kabhi pyaas nahi lagay gi..phir kuch log aayein gey jin ko main pehchaan loonga (k ye meri ummat k log hain ) or wo mujhe pehchaan lein gey , phir oonhein mujh tak aanay sey rok liya jaayega, main kahoonga ye tou meri ummat hai ?tou mujhe bataya jaayega k A MUHAMMAD (SALALLAHO ALAIHE WASALLAM) aap nahi jaantay k AAP k baad inhon ne kaisi kaisi Biddaton ko nikaala tou main kahoonga ,doori ho doori ho aisey logon sey jinhon ne merey Deen ko badal daala" ALLAH PAK HUMAIN SOCHNAY OR SAMAJHNAY KI TOFIQ ATA FERMAAYE.......or is tarah kay shirk or bid'aat sey humaari hifaazat fermaaye.....AAMEEN Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aaman_Eman 0 Posted April 21, 2005 Walikumsalam & Assalamoalikum 12 Rabi ul Awwal ko jisey Logon ne Eid Milaad UnNABI (SALALLAHO ALAIHE WASALLAM ) ka naam dey dia hai...is ki koi shari Haisyat nahi hai ....agar kisi Aurat ka Baita ek taareekh ko paida hota hai or oosi Taareekh ko fout ho jata hai tou kia wo ghum manayegi ya oos ki padaaish ka jashan manayegi \????Kia humaaray Nazdeek NAbi Akram (SALALLAHO ALAIHE WASALLAM ) ki itni bhi haisyat nahi k hum ne oon ko Wisaal k din ko Eid ka naaam dey dia?? or naye kaprey pehen ker jashan mananay shuroo ker diye........!!! Waazeh rahay K NAbi Akram (SALALLAHO ALAIHE WASALLAM) ki paidaaish k baarey main Ulamaa -e-Karaam ki akseryat ka qol ye he hai k NAbi AKRAM (SALALLAHO ALAIHE WASALLAM) ki wilaadat-eMubaraka 9 Rabil ul Awwal ko hui or wisaal k baarey main koi ikhtilaaf nahi ...bal k sub ulama is baat per mutaffiq hain k Nabi Akram (SALALLAHO ALAIHE WASALLAM) ka wisaal 12 Rabi-ul-awwal ko he hua!!! believe me jis din sai main nai ye forward mail peri hai..etni tension hai k..i can't expound it in words..hum kiya hain?? mujay ye samajh nahi aarehi k es tarah ke batoon sai hum islam kai baray main duniyaa ko kiya bata rehay hain..ye k dekh lo ye eisa religion hai jis kai mannay walay apnay messenger NAbi Akram (SALALLAHO ALAIHE WASALLAM ) ke tarkh e wilaadat tak per to mutafic nahi..wo or kiya karnama seranjam dein gai.. mujay tou aj tak yehi pata thaa k 12 Rabi-ul-awwal Aap SALALLAHO ALAIHE WASALLAM ke wilaatdat or wisaal ka din hai..ab ager ye kaha jay k wisaal ka dukh...tou NAtural se baat hai App (SALALLAHO ALAIHE WASALLAM ) es duniya main pehlay tashreef ferma howay..or baad main wisaal howa..App (SALALLAHO ALAIHE WASALLAM ) ke aamad ke khooshi hamray liyee baaes e musarat he hogee na.. dakhein meray paas aap ke tarah buht zaida ilm nahi hai or na he acchi argumentation skillzz ..main her baat ko positively dekhti hon..ager 12 Rabi-ul-awwal kai din he pakistani musalmaan ghar ghar milaad kerwatay hain..tou chalein es aik din kai sadqay he sahi wo Allah ka ziker tou kertay hain or ziker sunnaty hain... Plz agher main nai kuch ghalat kaha hai to os k liyee abi sai mazrat...baki aap loogon k reply ka wait rahay ga. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
**LaLa_1** 0 Posted April 21, 2005 dakhein meray paas aap ke tarah buht zaida ilm nahi hai or na he acchi argumentation skillzz ..main her baat ko positively dekhti hon..ager 12 Rabi-ul-awwal kai din he pakistani musalmaan ghar ghar milaad kerwatay hain..tou chalein es aik din kai sadqay he sahi wo Allah ka ziker tou kertay hain or ziker sunnaty hain... Allah maaf kerey humain bhi.....Ilm tou merey pass bhi nahi......aap ka kehna theek hai k log agar Ibadat kertey hain tou oon ka sawaab miley ga oonhein , magar yahan Logon ki oon Ibadaat ki nahi , Bida'aat ki baat ho rahi hai , yani wo baatein jo Deen ka Hissa nahi hain oonhein Sawab samajh ker kerna.....Logon ko baaqi dinon main kia ho jaata hai????? kia wo sirf isi din Allah ki Naimaton sey faaidah uthaa tay hain???? or ye Meelaad waghera I telll u what k Deen ka hissa nahi hain.......agar wo kertey hain tou i dont know k oonhein sawaab milay ga ya nahi agar wo oon Naaton main SHirkia Alfaaz use na kertey hon tab bhi nahi maloom...............coz these things are not related to Islam.............and i told u before k Walaadat k baarey man tou Ulama ka ikhtilaaf hai magar Wisaal k baarey main koi ikhtilaaf nahi , WIsaaal 12 Rabi UL AWWAL ko he hua......or 9 RabiulAwwal ko Walaadat ..ye he AKser Ulama ka qol hai.................!tou agar ye christians ki tarah birthday celeberate kertey hain tou that thing is totally against Islam.........................i m sorry ...koi diplomacy mujhe nahi aati ....i can't say it right by any means!!!!!.......ye Celebration Islam main kisi tarah bhi jaayiz nahi hai Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sanum 0 Posted April 21, 2005 Walakum salam.Aslam O alikum Ibadat>>>Jazakallah itni achi post share karnay ka ..par ek article adhora hay jis ka title hay kuch tu sochain plz second page ka bhi link day dein... Lala>>>mashallah bohat achay comments deay hein ab main bhi Aaman ko kuch kehna chahoon gi ager main gallat hon tu plz plz meri islah zaroor karain k mera ilm mehdood hay sirf meri soch Dearest irza pehli baat tu ye k kiya mohabbat may namood aur momaish zaroori hay ...yani mehfil melaad ka ineqad ya qurran khawani..awal tu quran khawani ka koi bhi concept hamain Islam may nahi milta...agar esa hota tu Sahaba qaram esa zaroor kartay agaer Hazrat Muhammad SAW ki life may na karta tu aap k baad esa zaroor kartay..aur hamari so called ye mehfilain kiya hoti hay khokhli nomaish...apnay dreeses ka show shaw dosroon pay comments...ajeeb ajeeb batain aur kiya kiya bataon...Lala k bakool kafi shirkiya kalmmat bhi hotay hein... agar sach may mohabbat hay tu aap us din gharibon may khairat karain chanda jamha kar k madarson may ya daig pakwa k osay kisi yateem khanay may dein aur jitna ho sakay darood pak ka wird karain nafil parhain...K sab say behtreen ibadat hay aur Allah ka pasindida bhi ab aap say rehnomaey chahoon gi k main kahan tak sahi hoon kiya quran khawani Islam may jaiz hay ya nahi? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rukh 25 Posted April 22, 2005 (edited) ibadat > app nay to kammal ker diya main kaye dino say is mozo per topic post kerna chah rahe the per waqt sath nahi day raha abhi bhi article ya posts to nahi mukmal perhee ....juma ka din chute ka milta hay per masroof bohat guzerta hay ..main yeh kehna chahon gee in chezoon ki muzmat kerna bohat zaroe hay ..la ilm or bholay log in batain main ajatay hain ..un ko yeh keh ker jhansa diya jata hay kay darood ki mehfil hay or to kuch nahi ajjain her woh cheez ya ibadat jo NABI ki door main wajood rakhte the lakin NABI nay kernay ka hukam nahi dya or na sahaba nay kia ..us ko kerna BIDDAT hay kal yahan hamray area main maild ki itne mehflain hoyee ..or main bayan nahi ker sakte kay kia dramay hoyee awrtoon ki awazain loud speaker kay zareye dor dor tuk ja rahee thee naatain perhe ja rahe or sare duniya kay ghiar mehrum un ki awazain sun rahay thay ...bay perda awartain ..her kam ghair shraye or yeh dawa kay in mehfilon main HAZOOR SALAL ALHO AYLHI WASLAM tashref lainn gay ..! ALLAH mauff keray yahan tuk keh diya gya kay 12 rabi ul awal ko apnay gher main jitne GREEN LIGHTS lagain gay utnay gher kay afrad baksh deye jain gay jaisai isaye mazhab main hay kay pop ko saray gunah bata do or paisai day do woh app kay gunah bukhswa day ga ! bulkay kal rat to 2 sunnat isha ki bhi JAMAT kerwaye gyee ..jo kam nabi na kabhi na kia na kaha yeh nam nayhad ashiq-e-rasool ker kay sabit ker rahay hain kay in ko nabi ki talemat per aytmad nahi bulkay yad zyada ibadat kernay walay hain ..naozibillah Edited April 22, 2005 by rukh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ibadat 2 Posted April 22, 2005 "LALA_1"... bilkool theek farmaya hian app ne... meri bhi yahi raye hain.. "EMAN" .. merey pas buhat se infoo hain ...barii lambi chali thi 12Rabiulawal par..is Islamic section amin tu koi ata hi nahi hain...ika duka members hi atey hain ..ye ajj kal Allah nazrey bad se bacchey tu 3 se 4 members or aa rahey ahi nayhan...warna cy ke members ko to alergic hain Islamic seection se..... kheer dossrye forum par eror aa raha hain ..jab wo eror khtam ho ga main aap ko sarii infoo send karoo gi... ab again likhne ke liye buuhat time cahiey is liye thoora sa wait kejiey.... aik baat jo cheez na kbahi RAsool salllallahu alehey waalehi wasalam ne ki ... na kabhi SAHAB e karam rizwan ullah Ajmaeen ne ki ... jo na kbahii TABAEEN ne karii......jo na kabhi Taba e tabeeen ne kariii ... wo kar ke kau nsa ishq sabit karna cahatey hin log???? green flags har jaga? speakr se sar dard ho jata hina ...article jo UMMAT akhbar wala hian ye bilkool sacchi baat hain koi jhooti chalo agar ye jhooti bhi ain tu before 2 years back merey apne gali main ghar ke bilkoo lsamne aik Hari pagri waloon ke KARI SAhab ne speakar laga gi... raat ke 3 baje band kia..... mera jo haal tha ..mera dil cha raha tha sar phar doo ja kar ..ye merey sudharne se pehly ki bat hai n... us time main sunni barelvi sect se hi thi ..or still merey paresnts sunni barelvi hi hian or hamrye apne ghar ke upaar hara flag laga howa hain.... tu kehne ka maqsad hain ke HAzoor e Pak sallallahu alehey waalhe wasalam ke kahi howii baton ke khilaf ja kar aap kaun sa sawab kama loo gey???????????????????????? doosron ke nendain haram kar ke aap kuan sa sawab kama rhaey hon?????????????? main suritye se kehtii hon us KARI ko us ki NAAt ka koi sawab nahi mila hoga.. us ne purey muhalle ke neend haram kar ke rakhii thi .. or main aap ko baton us ki zindgi ..us ne apni beti ke liye aik new tv wid dvd player apni beti ke room main lagwaya hian..us ke apni bevi koi parda nahi kartii .. kaun sa ishq hain? maujhy bhi tu pata chlaey ???? ye ishq kis kisam ka hian?????? actually main thori jazbatii ho jatii hon aap ye mat samjhye ga aap ko gussa kar rahi hon un ko kar rahi hon jo manatye hian or is tarah Hazoor e Pak sallallahu alehey waalhi waalam ki insult kartey hina Sanum : MASHALLah theek expalin kia hin ..or sarey pages complete hian har article aik hhi page ka hian ...2 page kisi ke bhi nahi hain .main ne check kar lia hian... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ibadat 2 Posted April 22, 2005 ibadat > app nay to kammal ker diya main kaye dino say is mozo per topic post kerna chah rahe the per waqt sath nahi day rahaabhi bhi article ya posts to nahi mukmal perhee ....juma ka din chute ka milta hay per masroof bohat guzerta hay ..main yeh kehna chahon gee  in chezoon ki muzmat kerna bohat zaroe hay ..la ilm or bholay log in batain main ajatay hain ..un ko yeh keh ker jhansa diya jata hay kay darood ki mehfil hay or to kuch nahi ajjain her woh cheez ya ibadat jo NABI ki door main wajood rakhte the lakin NABI nay kernay ka hukam nahi dya or na sahaba nay kia ..us ko kerna BIDDAT hay kal yahan hamray area main maild ki itne mehflain hoyee ..or main bayan nahi ker sakte kay kia dramay hoyee awrtoon ki awazain loud speaker kay zareye dor dor tuk ja rahee thee naatain perhe ja rahe or sare duniya kay ghiar mehrum un ki awazain sun rahay thay ...bay perda awartain ..her kam ghair shraye or yeh dawa kay in mehfilon main HAZOOR SALAL ALHO AYLHI WASLAM tashref lainn gay ..! ALLAH mauff keray yahan tuk keh diya gya kay 12 rabi ul awal ko apnay gher main jitne GREEN LIGHTS lagain gay utnay gher kay afrad baksh deye jain gay jaisai isaye mazhab main hay kay pop ko saray gunah bata do or paisai day do woh app kay gunah bukhswa day ga ! bulkay kal rat to 2 sunnat isha ki bhi JAMAT kerwaye gyee ..jo kam nabi na kabhi na kia na kaha yeh nam nayhad ashiq-e-rasool ker kay sabit ker rahay hain kay in ko nabi ki talemat per aytmad nahi bulkay yad zyada ibadat kernay walay hain ..naozibillah kis kis baat ka roona roya jaye meri tu samjh nahi ata away ka awa hi bigra howa hain .... aik baat ko pakroo to doosri nikal aati hain ... ye loog hamain kud Gustakhi kartey hain or hamain Gustak boltey hain ... Merey ghar par bhi merye valid ne greeb flag lagaya howa hian lekin wo peshwar gae hain aaj tu main abhi wo utarwa doo gi INshAllah... kheer jab tak dam hain tab tak INSHALLAH har galat or biddat ki tarah logoon ki tawajja dilwatey rahey gain agey wo manne na manne un ka kasoor Allah hidayat dain sab ko ..Ameen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ibadat 2 Posted April 22, 2005 (edited) Walakum salam.Aslam O alikumIbadat>>>Jazakallah itni achi post share karnay ka ..par ek article adhora hay jis ka title hay kuch tu sochain plz second page ka bhi link day dein... Lala>>>mashallah bohat achay comments deay hein ab main bhi Aaman ko kuch kehna chahoon gi ager main gallat hon tu plz plz meri islah zaroor karain k mera ilm mehdood hay sirf meri soch Dearest irza pehli baat tu ye k kiya mohabbat may namood aur momaish zaroori hay ...yani mehfil melaad ka ineqad ya qurran khawani..awal tu quran khawani ka koi bhi concept hamain Islam may nahi milta...agar esa hota tu Sahaba qaram esa zaroor kartay agaer Hazrat Muhammad SAW ki life may na karta tu aap k baad esa zaroor kartay..aur hamari so called ye mehfilain kiya hoti hay khokhli nomaish...apnay dreeses ka show shaw dosroon pay comments...ajeeb ajeeb batain aur kiya kiya bataon...Lala k bakool kafi shirkiya kalmmat bhi hotay hein... agar sach may mohabbat hay tu aap us din gharibon may khairat karain chanda jamha kar k madarson may ya daig pakwa k osay kisi yateem khanay may dein aur jitna ho sakay darood pak ka wird karain nafil parhain...K sab say behtreen ibadat hay aur Allah ka pasindida bhi ab aap say rehnomaey chahoon gi k main kahan tak sahi hoon kiya quran khawani Islam may jaiz hay ya nahi? nahi janab Quran Khuwani jaiz nahi hain ... is ke barye main bhi mery forum par main ne kafii lambii post ki thi whaan kuch eror aa raha hian wo khatam ho jaye phir INshAllah ul aziz kafiiiiii info mil sakii hain ...... mazrat ke sath kuch intazar karna parey ga.... chalye kuch cheezain is ke galat hone ki waja se bata deti ho points 1.. Quran parhne main TAjweed ka khiyal rakhna cahiey jo ke galiban Quran parhne ke hoqooq main shamil hian ..or aap ko kia malom jo loog aa rahey hai nwo tajweed se parh bhi rahey hain ya nahi? gunnah sara ka sara us ke sar par jo Quran Khuwani kar wa raha hain ... 2. Quran e Pak main 14times sajda karna parta hia n... jo ke loog ye soochtey hian ke bad main kar lai ngain tu wo un ke bad hi kabhii nahi atii ...or aksar jaga dekha gaya hian ke jo ehtamam kartey hain Quran khuwani ka wo last main kud hi 14 purey kar letey hian tu ye sarasar gunnah hain ......jis par SAjda ata hian us ko hi karna chaiey.... 3. aurtain NATAIN parhtii hain jin ki awaz onchi itnii hotii hain ke ghar ke dosorey mard bhi sunntey hain ...jo karwa raha hota hian us ke liye tu wo mard mehram hotey hain lekin doosron ke liye tu namehram hain na ..na sirf ghar balkey gali main bhi logoon ko un ki aawaz baaakaida suna rhai hotii hain ... 4. Quran e Pak ke duran batian nahi karni chaiey is par aik KHOOBSURAT baat bhi ahin wo main likhoo gi jald hi inshAllah ul Aziz tu aurton ko tu bemari hotii hain Qurna khooltye hi start ho jaeye gi... "main ne kal blue colour ka suit lia hian" "new sarhii li hain main ne " "Mena bazar gai thi mehnadi lagwane ke liye main" "merey sas tu itna jhagarti hain mujh se" "merye betey ne clas main first postion li hain" saiiiiiii ki sariii batina usii time yaad ati hain jab QURAN E PAK khola jata hian ? wesey nah i... or mana karoo tu sunnti nahi hain .... kheer ye chand points hina ... sorry time ki kami ka bais main ziayda nahi likh sakii ....... Edited April 22, 2005 by Ibadat Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aaman_Eman 0 Posted April 24, 2005 Comments of Imams on the Celebration of Eid-e-Milad-un-Nabi (Salal Allho alyhi wasalam) 1. Imam Al-Hafiz Al-Suyuti in his famous book "Al-Hawii Lil-Fatawii" allocated a special chapter on that topic and named it "The Excellence of Objective in Celebrating the Mawlid" where he said: The question under consideration is what the verdict (FATWA) of the Shari`ah on celebrating the Holy Birthday of the Noble Prophet (Salal Allho alyhi wasalam) during the month of Rabbi-ul-Awwal. From the point of view of Shari`ah is this a praiseworthy action or a blameworthy one? And do those who arrange such celebration receive blessings or not? He said: "The reply to this question is that in my view the Meelad Shareef (Celebration of the Birthday of the Noble Prophet Salal Allho alyhi wasalam) is in fact such an occasion of happiness on which people assemble (IJTAMH,MAJLIS) and recite the Holy Qu`ran to the extent that is easy. This festival of celebrating the birthday of the Noble Prophet (Salal Allho alyhi wasalam) is a Bid`ah Hasanah (good innovation) and those arranging it will get blessing, since in such a celebration is found the expression of joy and happiness at the greatness and eminence of the Noble Prophet (Salal Allho alyhi wasalam) and his birth". Even Ibn Tay`miah said in his book "As far as what people do during the Meelad, either as a rival celebration to that which the Christian do during the time of Christ`s birthday or as an expression of their love and admiration and a sign of praise for the Noble Prophet (Salal Allho alyhi wasalam), Allah Almighty will surely reward them for such Ij`tiha". He then said: "Although Meelad was not practiced by (Salaf), they should have done so since there was no objection against it from the Shari`ah point of view". And we certainly only celebrate Meelad out of love and admiration to the Prophet of all Mankind. 2. Imam Al-Hafiz Al-Qastalani, who gave commentary on Sahih Bukhari, said: "May Allah Almighty shower his Mercy upon a person who takes the days of the month of Rabbi-ul-Awwal, in which the Noble Prophet (Salal Allho alyhi wasalam) was born, as days of feast and celebration for doing so is the best cure for the heart of an ailing person." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
**LaLa_1** 0 Posted April 24, 2005 This festival of celebrating the birthday of the Noble Prophet (Salal Allho alyhi wasalam) is a Bid`ah Hasanah (good innovation) and those arranging it will get blessing, since in such a celebration is found the expression of joy and happiness at the greatness and eminence of the Noble Prophet (Salal Allho alyhi wasalam) and his birth". hmmmmmm i dont know k inhon ne kis Bunyaad per isey bidat-e-Hasana kaha hai...and what is Bidat-e-Hasana? can u explain that AAMAN_EEMAN??or can u ask these "Alims" who celeberate this ocassion????? u ask and telll us the meaning of it.........Biddat ,Biddat he hai ...ye kia baat hui k ye Bidda-e-Hasana hai or ye koi or Biddat .....Deen main Izafa kerney ka naaam Biddat hai or phir oos izaafey ko sawab samajh ker oos per amal kerna isey biddat kaha jata hai........main ne atleast kabhi is Biddat-e-Hasana k baarey main nahi suna or na he kahin perha ...............Dekhein ji main aap ko ek misaal deta hoon , agar Azaan k alfaaz main Allah-0-Akbar shuroo main 4 k bajaaye 6 baar perh dia jaaye tou baccha bhi kahay ga k Molvi Sahab ne ghalat azaan di hai.....haalaan k ALlah-0-Akbar ka matlab hai ALlah sub sey bera hai tou ye alfaaz kehney main koi buraai nahi agar dekha jaaye tou? lekin ye Nabi AKram (SALALLAHO ALAIHEWASALLAM) ka tareeqa nahi hai ,oonhon ne 4 dafa he bataya hai so 4 dafa he perhna hai , is main agar izafa kerein gay tou ye Deen main ziadti hai or ALlah K RASOOL SALALLAHO ALAIHEWASALLAM) k tareeqay sey ikhtilaaf hai tou gunaah ka hona laazim hoga................. or aap ne jo Imam Suyooti ka or doosrey Imamon ka qol yahan bayan kiya hai tou i dont think so k ye oonhi ka qol hai , agar ye oon ka qol hai bhi tou bhi na tou is main Kisi HAdis ka hawala hai na kisi Sahaabi ka Qol or na he Quran sey koi quote .........inhon ne bas Mantiq k usoolon ko madd-e-nazar rakh ker Meelaad ko sahi kaha hai jo k siraa ser ghalat hai ...............dekhein , agar Hadis main koi cheez Quran sey mutasaadam hai tou Quran k qol ko sahi samja jaayega , isi tarah agar Tareekh main sey koi cheez , koi hukum Hadis sey mutasaadim hai tou Hadis ko sahi samjha jaaye ga , na k oosi ko asal samajh ker oos per amal shuroo ker dena ............jaisa k ooper AHaadis sey ye baat saabit hai k ye Meelaad kisi bhi tarah sey jaaiz nahi tou phir in Imamon k qol Oon Ahaadis k saamnay koi haisyat naih rakhtay ............we will follow Quran and Hadis not these Ulama......... in Imaamon ki koi baaat authentic nahi hai .....bas man gharat baatein ki hain inhon ne ..... Even Ibn Tay`miah said in his book "As far as what people do during the Meelad, either as a rival celebration to that which the Christian do during the time of Christ`s birthday or as an expression of their love and admiration and a sign of praise for the Noble Prophet (Salal Allho alyhi wasalam), Allah Almighty will surely reward them for such Ij`tiha".He then said: "Although Meelad was not practiced by (Salaf), they should have done so since there was no objection against it from the Shari`ah point of view". humain Allah k Nabi SALALLAHO ALAIHE WASALLAM ne Yahood o Nasaara ko follow kerney sey mana kia hai or yahan ye baat ho rahi hai k agar christians kertey hain tou humain bhi is per koi aiteraaz nahi k hum Nabi AKram (SALALLAHO ALAIHE WASALLAM) ka Meelaad manayein........this is totally a wrong school of thought............coz ye baat Quran O HAdis sey mutasaadim hai , na Sahaaba ne isey manaya or na oon k baad many centuries tak doosrey Aslaaf ne.......................tou behter hai k hum bhi isey na manaayein coz agar hum ye na manaayein tou hum Daaira-e-Islam sey khaarij nahi ho jaatay ........humain ALlah or RAsool (SALALLAHO ALAIHE WASALLAM) ki itaaat kerney ko kaha gaya hai na k oon ki paidaaish k din per khushiaan mananay ka or jo asal main Yom-e-Paidaaish nahi bal k Yom -e-Wafaat hai .................. ab main ne reply tou ker dia hai but still people will be having doubts in their minds....or jo isey na mannay waalay hongay wo ye he kahain gay k nahi jo baat in Imaamon ne kahi hai wo sahi hai ..coz Quran _O_Hadith ki oon ki nazar main koi haisyat nahi.......wo ab bhi Mushrikin-e-Makkah ki tarah apnay baap dada k tareeqon ko na chornay ka kahain gay .........ALlah ka wwaasta hai logo in zalaalat k andhairo sey niklo or Quran o Hadith ko samajhnay ki koshish kero .or in Imaamon k man gharat aqwaal ko follow mat kero coz Nabi AKram (SALALLAHO ALAIHE WASALLAM) ki Hadis ka mafhoom hai k meri ummat k kuch Ulama aisey hain jo Deen k naaam per Logon ka maal khatay hain ...tou Khuda ra in halwa khor Molvi Saahibaan ki baaton main aaker apni aakhirat barbaad mat kero................. or sirf mohabbat main aaker apnay Deeen main izaafay mat kero coz agar hum ye nahi manayein gay tou Kaafir nahi ho jaayein gey , or agar manayein gey tou sakht paker ka andaisha hai .............kahin aisa na ho k ye Lights jo 12 Rabbiul Awwal per lagayi jaati hain , humain Dozakh ki tareekion main na pohonchaa dey WALLAHO ALAM ! 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sanum 0 Posted April 26, 2005 (edited) whaan kuch eror aa raha hian wo khatam ho jaye phir INshAllah ul azizkafiiiiii info mil sakii hain ...... mazrat ke sath kuch intazar karna parey ga.... koi baat nahi main intezaar kar loon gi par post zaroor kareay ga... aap nay sirf ye kaha hay k aur misal sirf aurtoon ki di hay jab k es ki favour may kenhay wallay ye bhi keh saktay hein k phir mardoon ki quran khawani tu jaiz hay plz mojhe solid reson dejeay ga us k against k manay apnay ghar wallon ko convence karna hay k meri mother yateem khanay/madarsay say larkoon ko bolwa kar ghar par quran khawani karati hein ... Lala>>>Zabar10 Jazakallah bohat bohat achi misalain de hein...mashallah Aaman>>>omeed hay ab confusion door ho gaey hogi aur mojhe bhi ye janna hay k biddat hasna kiya hay?hamaray so called mufti,molvies es jashon ki favour kyun nahi karain gay k es may sarasar inka bhala hay...jesay eid e qurban may asal faida qasaiyoon ka hota hay wasay he es function may in ka... Sahaba karaam say ziyada tu kisi nay bhi App salalaho Alahay wasalum say sachi aur ziyada muhabbat nahi ki phir ?jab un k zamanay may ye sab nahi tha Hum ab kesay ye sab manatay hein aur sach muhabbat bus es ek din k liye ye kyun...baki ki sonatain kiya hoein jin may jhoot na bolna,sari sari raat Allah ki ibadat karna,faqay katna dosron k sath bhalaey,inkisari,reham aur bohat kuch wasay kitni sharam ki baat hay k jashan may bhi hamain sirf aayashi he nazar aati hay koi ataat ya deeni tableg nahi..... Edited April 26, 2005 by sanum Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aaman_Eman 0 Posted April 26, 2005 aur hamari so called ye mehfilain kiya hoti hay khokhli nomaish...apnay dreeses ka show shaw dosroon pay comments...ajeeb ajeeb batain aur kiya kiya bataon... Sanum aap ke baat theek hai lakin Dear ye baatain tou her jagah hoti hain..aap kahein be kesi sai islam per baat shuro kerin..es ka end pata hai kiya hoga..ya tou aap khood ko (khuda na kawsta) jahil , ghunahgaar samajnah shuro ho jain gay .. ya dosray ko samajhna shuro ker dain gai..eisa kion hai??? LaLa Aik tou aap nai baat etnay sakhat lehjay main ke thee k mujay yahaan reply kernay kai liyee buht himmat kerna pari hai..or second ye k jab buht saray loog aik he baat keh rahay hon tou Aik akelay sakhs ko baat kernay main mushkil paish aati hai..anyway baat tou main be zaroor karoon ge.. First of all mera yahaan reply kernay ka maqsd sirf or sirf sahi or ghalat ko jannna hai..na k apnay views aap loogon per impose kerna ..or aap logoon ke baat InshAllah main zaroor mano ge..lakin tab jab meray sab doubts clear ho jein gay Jee loog kehtay hain k Sahaba karaam kai dor main be es tarah sai Qurankhwani or milaad nahi parah gaya laihaza ye Bidat hai..tou ager yehi baat hai kai jo kaam Sahaba karam nai nahi kiya.. tou aaj jis shakal main Quran pak hai maslan rangeen chiknay kaghaz ,Eraab ,terjuma , hashiyaa per tafseer etc madaaras, tareeqa e taleem, oqaat e taleem, emtahaanat , taqseem e asnad, salana chanada, assatza ke pay or jis tarah tableeghi jalsay hotay hain or jis tarah masajid main tankhwadar moazan or jis tarah safar e haj kiya jata hai ....kiya ye sab kuch Sahaba e karam RizwanAllah ajmaeen nai kiya?? ager milaad or salam Sahaaba karaam kai dor main hota to ye wajab hota ya sunnat..ab tou na ye wajab hai ot na sunnat balkai Mustahib hai or mustahib wo hai jis ko musalmaan accha samjein. haan ager logoon nai milaad ko wajab or zaroori samaj liyaa hai..tou kesi mustahib ko wajab samajna najaiz hai. Or rehi green lights ke baat..tou ye just show off hai es sai zaida kuch nahi..mujay hairat es baat per hai k aap sab Quraankhwani ko ghalat keh rahay hain..es liyee k wahan gheebat hoti hai..aik dosaray ki buraiyaan..or kaproon ke numaish..tou shadiyaoon per kiya hota hai..kiya hum nai shadiyaan attend kerna chor dee hain?? main phir sai kahoon ge k mera maqsd hergiz ye nahi hai k aap sab ghalat keh rahay hain..main just sahi or ghalat jannay ke justajoo main hon k agher ye sab sahi hai tou theek.. or ager ghalat hai tou kion???(plzzz ager aap ko meri koi baat buri lagay tou maaf ker dejiyee ga) or sab molvi hazraat halwa nahi khatay..kuch ko sugar (diabetes) be hoti hai. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ibadat 2 Posted April 27, 2005 EMAN QURAN KHUWANI ko Galat kehne ka matlab mera bilkool bhi ye nahi hian ke QURAN E PAK parhna galat hian , Quran e Pak parhna bilkool theek hain lekin aap ye bhi tu dekhye ye esii cheez ban gai hain jo nahi karwaye tu loog ussey kafir samjhtey hain ...jab ke esii koi baat nahi hain...or biddat ko Ulma e Karam ne kaii tarah se define kia hian jis main se aik defination ye hain ke "har wo cheez jjo deen ke naam par ejad ho jaye or phir us ko na karne waley ko loog kafir samjhey" jis tarah meri aik friend ne kaha jo ke HARI PAGRI sect se hain ke hamarey sath main DEOBAND loog rehtye hain un ke ghar main aik admi mar gaya tu unhu ne Quran Khuwani hi nahi karwai...pata nahi kesey Musalman hain. tu mujhy ye tu bataya jaye zara behan ke kia Hazoor E Pak sallallahu alehey waaleh iwasalam ke VISAL par Quran Kuwani howii thi? kia un ki LIFE main un ki kisi BEti ke intakal par Quran Khuwani howii thi??? kia un ke NAwasey or un ke apne betoon ke intakal par Quran khuwani howii thi?????????????? nahi na???? agar ye itna imp hota jitna ke loog aaj samjhtey hain...or is ke zariye pessey kharch kartey hain jo ke sarasar najaiz hian ...upper se khana bhi zaroori hain Quran khuwani ke sath... aik tu insaan mar gaya upper se us ke ghar main jama ho kar khana kia ye jaiz hian???????????? agar esa hota or ye itna imp kaam hota tu kia kud Hazoor e Pak sallallahu alehey waalehi wasalam na farma detey ke esa karna???????? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ibadat 2 Posted April 27, 2005 sorry SAnum wo topic tu main dhoond dhoond kar thak gai hon lekin nahi mil raha hain , 2 bar hack howii hain wo site may be wo delete items mai chalaya gaya hoon, hmm ab mujhy thora time lagey ga again se likhne main ..... wo book nahi hain ... Well INSHALLAH main jald hi send kartii hon ab Quarn khuwani Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ibadat 2 Posted April 27, 2005 EMAN ye merey dosrey forum ki post hain BIDDAT again dfine kar doo .. biddat deen main nikali howi nai baat ko kehte hian jis ko deen ka ahem rukan samjh kar kara jaye or na kara jane par gunnah gar samjha jaye. or tu or ye biddat aik SHIYA BADSHAH Sultan muzafar uddin kokarvi 630 hijri main mosal main ai DUNIYA DAR MOLVI umar bin dahiya abulkhitab ke kehne par ejad ki or shahi khazane or dande ke ruab se chala di tu har doo ke mukik ulma is biddat e shaniya ki tardeed karte chaley aa rahey hain. ALLAMA ahmad bin muhammad malki ®, Allama zehbi ® , Allama ine hijar asqalani ® ,Allama ibne tamema ®, Allama naseeruddin shafai ®, Hazrat mujadid alif sani hanfi ®, ne maktoobat hissa panjum 22 main or ibne ameer ulhaj malki ne mudkhal suwab 85 jeem 1 main khoob tardeed ki hain. ALLAMA magrabi apne FATAVA main likhti hain " BESHAK MELAD BIDDAT HIAN . HAZRAT RASOOL E KUDA , KHULFA E RASHDEEN OR AIMA DEEN NE NA HUKUM DIYA OR NA KIYA HAI" or ALLAMA Ahmad bin muhammad misri alkoolulmutamad mai likhte hain "aroon muzahib ke ullma is amal e milad ki muzamat par mutafik hian" (rahe sunnat) mazahid se murad yahan maslak hain .. jese HANFI maslak , SHAAFAI maslak, HANBLI maslak, MALKI maslak. ye na hi kisi or mulk main manai jati hain . phir or tu or is din QAWALIYAN bhi munakid hoti hian.. jo aik or shoosha hian deen main aik or nai biddat hain. loog samjhte hina ke ye sawab hian halakne ye bilkool bhi sawab ka kaam nah iahin.. dhool baja baja kar taliyan baja baja kar . RASOOL ULLAH se apni ISHK ka izhar karna .. jab ke na RASOOLLAH ki sunnat jesi DARHI hoti hian.. .. afsoosss Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ibadat 2 Posted April 27, 2005 2.EMAN MUST READ THIS POST "EID E MILADUNNABI " .. main kuch arse se hamrare KARACHI man " Eid e Milad un Nabi" ke muke par Anhazrat Sallallahu alehe wasalam ke ROZA E ATHAR or BEETULLAHSHAREEF ki sabeh banai jati hian.. or jaga jaga bare bare choon main sang bana kar rake jate hain . log un se TABARUK hasil karte hian.... or "BEETULLAH" ki kud sakhta sabeh ka tuwaf bhi karte hain //.... or ye sab kuch musalmaoon k\e hatoon or ulma ke nigirani main karaya ja raha hian... is par jo haazaroon rupoa kharach kiya jata hian ye mehaz israf wa tabreez or fazool kharchi hain.. ... ANHAZRAT Sallallahu alehe wasalam ne kabroon par chirag or shama jalane waloon par us liye lanat farmai hian ke ye fail abas hain. or KUDA ke diye howe MAAL ko mufat zaya karna hian..zara soochiey! jo MUQADAS NABI Sallallahu alehe wasalam ki kabar par aik chirag jalane ko fazool kharchi ki waja se mamnoon or esa karne waloon ko malom karar deta hain . us ka irshad is hazaroon or lakhoon rope ke fazool kharchi karne waloon ke bare main kiiya ho ga? or phir ye bhi dekhiye ke ye fazoolkharchi wo gubar zada koom kar rahi hian jo roti . kapra. makan ke naam par eman tak ka sooda karn ko tayat hain. is fazool kharchi ke bajaye agar yahi rakam Anhazrat Sallallahu alehe wasalam ke esal e sawab keliye Gurba wa Masakeen ko chupke se nadak de di jati tu numaish tu bilashuba na hoti .. magar us rakam se senkhroon ujre ghar abad ho skate they.un seenkhroon bachiyaon ke hath peele kiye ja sakte they jo apne valeedn ke liye sohan e roh bani howi hin.. kiya ye fazool kharichi is kom ke rehnumoon ko sajti hain .. jis ke buhat se afrad wa khandan nan shabena se mehroom or jan wa tan ka rishta kaimrakhne se kasir hoon? or phir ye sab kuch kiya bhi ja raha hian tu kis hasti ke naam par? jo kud tu PEEt par PATHAR bhi bandh lete the.. magar janwaroon tak ki bhook piyar sunkar taarap jate they.. is FEEL mian Shiayon or RAfiziyoon ki takleed hain.AAP ko maloom hi h ga ke RAFZI Sayyadena Hazrat Imam Hussain RAziAlahtalaanhu ki salana barsi manaya karte or us muke par taziya alam daldal wageera nikala karte hain. unhoon ne jo kuch Sayyadena Imam Hussain RaziAllahtalaanhu or ALE RASOOL Sallallahu alehe wasalam ke naam par kiya wohi hum ne kud RAsool ULLAH Sallallahu alehe wasalam ke naam par karna start kar idya. insaaf kejiye ke agar RASOOLULLAH Sallallahu alehe wasalam ke ROZA E ATHAR or BEETULLAH SHARREEF ka sawang bana kar ussey BAZARON main phirana or us ke sath ROZA E ATHAR or BEETULLAH kasa mamla kar sahe hain tu RAWAFIZ ka taziya or daldal ka sawang rachana kiu galat hian?? jabke na sirf hum loog ye na sif Ehle HADEESH , DEOBNADI , WAHABI , JAMAT E ISALMI wale in ko galat kehte hian balke kud BAREELVI HAZRAT KE ALA IMAM AHMAD RAZA BARELVI ke 55 FATWE hain ke RAFZI KAFI hain.. phir jo KAFIR karte hian wohi ye kud karte hain tu phir soochne ke baat hin in main or un main kiya farq reh gaya? wo bhi apni taraf se ejad ki howicheezain karte hin or ye bhi... ab sirf AKAL ke baat reh giah ian... AKA or ANA , JEET or HAt ko side par rakh kar baat kare or sooche .. tu sab samjh aa jaye ga.. MELAD ki mehfiloon ke VAJOOD se UMMAT ki 6 sadiyan khali guzarti hain or un 6 sadiyon main, musalmanoon ne kbahi "seerutun NABI" ke naam se koi jalsa ye "MELAD" ke naam se koi mehil nahi sajai.. "mehfil milad" ka agaz sab se pehey 604 hijri min howa tha jis ka main zikar kar chuki hoo. jab ye nai rasam nikli ..tu ULMAE UMMAT ke darmiya n is ke jawabz wa adam jawaz ki behas chali.. ALLAMA FAKEHANI ® or n ke rufka ne in kudshakh qoyood kei bina par us main shirkar se azar kiya or ussey "BIDDATE SIYA" karar diya.....or deer ULMA e KARAM ne sultan ki rahnumai ki.. phir ye rasam awam main aa gai. is main nai nai IKHTARAT ka takha e mukh banti chali gai. AAJ harmare samne EID ki shakl main aik TARAKI YAFTA shakal main mojood hian. (or KUDA hi jane behtar ke or kitni taraki honi baki hian) is EID ko manne ki aik waja ye bhi hian ke pehley koomon main apne buzurgoon or baniyan e mazhab ki barsi manane ka mamool hain.jesa ke ESAIYOON main Hazrat Esa Alhe salam ke youm e Viladat. par "eid manai jati hain" is ke araksh ISLAM ne barsi manae ki rasam ko khatam kar diay tha or is mian 2 hikmatain thi.. aik ye ke salfira ke moke par jo kuch kiay jata hian ow ISLAM ki dawat or us ki ROH wa MIJAZ se koi musabat nahi rakhta..ISLAM IS ZAHIRI SAJ DHAJ ,NAMOOD O NUMAISH or NARE BAzi ka QAIL NAHI. wo is shooro sugub or HI HOWO se hat kar apni dawat ka agaz diloon ki tabdeeli se karta hain.. or AKAID E HAKKA ., IKHLADE HUSSA or AMAL E SULAHI ki tabiyat se "insaan sazi" ka kaam karta hian .. ki nazar mai ye zahiri muzahire aik kori ki keemat bhi nhai rakhte .jin ke bare main kaha gaya hain. " JAGMAGATE DIL DAROODEWARE DIL BENOOR" 2 nd hikmat ye hin ke ISLAM deegar mazahib ki tarah kisi khaas mosam min bargwabar nahi lata balk wo tu esa sada bahar shaja e toba hian.. jis ka phal or saya dail wa kaim hain.. is ki dawat or us ka peegham kisi khaas date ka marhoone minnat nahi balke AFAQ WA AZMAN ko muheet hian.. or phir doosri koomon ke pass tu 2 ,4 hastiyan hoon gi jin ki salgira mana kar wo farigh ho jati hain.. is ke baraks ISLAM ke daman main HAZAROON LARKHOON nahi KAROORON ese hastiyan moojod hain jo aik se aik bhar kar hain or jin ki AZMAT ke samne AASMAN ki bulandiyan kam hian or NORANI FARISTHOON ka takadus gard e rah hain.. ISLAM ke pass kam wa beesh sawal lakh ki tadad tu un ANBIYA ALEHE SALAM ki hain... jo insaniyat ke hero hian. or jin main se aik aik ka vajood kainat ke sari choozon par bhari haain.phir in ke bad SAHABA KARAM ka KAFLA hain in ke tadad bhi sawa lakh se kiya kam ho gi? phir in ke bad har sadi ke wo LAKHOON AKABAR WA OLIYA ALLAH hian jo apne apne wakat main rasho hidayat ke minar a e noor they... or jin ke age bare bare jabir badshoon ki gardanin jhuk jati they.. ab agar ISLAM shakhsiyatoon ki salgiran manane ka darwana kool deta to goor kejiye us ummat kosaal bhar main salgira hon ke illwawa kisi or kaam ke liye aik lamha i bhi fursat hoti ???? chuke ye cheez hi ISLAM ki dawat or us ke mijaz ke khilaf thi is liye Anhazrat Sallallahu alee wasalam , SAHABA , tabaeen wa taba tabaeen ke bad 6 sadiyan tak ummat ka mijaz us ko kabool na kar saka.. aagar aap ne ISALMITAREEKH ka mutalla kiya hian tu aap ko maaloom ho ga ke ISLAMI tareekh main 6th sadi wa zamana hian jis main FARZANDANE TASLEES ne saleebi jangain lari. or maseehat ke napak or manhoos kadmon ne ALAME ISLAM ko rond dala udhar musalmanon ka islami mijaz dakhli wa kharji fitnoon ki musalsal yalgar se kamzor par gaya tha. udhar maseeyat ka alame islam par fatihana hamla howa. or musalmanon main maftoh koom ka sa ehsase kamtari peeda howa . is lie essaiyon ki takleed maine koom bhi saal bad apne mudas NABI Sallallahu alehe wasalam ki youme viladat ka jashan manane lagi.lekin UMMAT ke majmooi mizaj ne us ko kabool nahi kaiy.balke 7th sadi ke agaz se lekar aaj tak ULMAE UMMAT ne ussye "BIDDAT" karar diya. or ussey "har biddat gumrahi hian" ke zamre main shumar kiya. AGARCHA e RASAM kafi arsa pehley se start hain 6 and 7 ke beech ki sadi se lekin kisi ko jurat na howi ke .. isse EID ka naam deta . kiuke Anhazrat Sallallahu alehe wasalam ne farma tha ke "MERI KABAR KO EID GAH NA BANANA" magar ab chand saln se usse salgira ko " EID E MILADUNABI" kehlane ka sharf bhi hasil ho gaya hain. duniya ka kaun musalman is se nawakif ho ga ke ANhazrat Sallallahu alehe wasalam ne musalmanon keliy e EID ke DO DIN mukarkar idya hina.. EIDUL FIKAR or EID UL AZHA agar Anhazrat Sallallahu alehe wasalam ke YOUM VILAT ko bhi EID kehna sahee hota or ISLAM ke mijaz seye cheez muasbat rkahi tu Anhazrat Sallallahu alehe wasalam kud hi us ko EID karar de sakte the. or agar Anhazrat Sallallahu alehe wasalam ke nazdeek ye pasandeeda cheez hoti tu AAP Sallallah ualehe wasalam na sahi, khulfa e RASHDEEN RaziAllahtalaanhum hi aap Sallallahu alehe wasalamke YOUM VILADAT ko EID keh kar JASHANE EID E MULADUNABI ki tarah dalte.. magar unhoon ne esa nhiak iay.. is se 2 hi nateeje nikalte hain ye ye ke hum is ko EID kehen main GALTI par hain ye ye ke NOOZUBILLAH hamian tu Anhazrat Sallallahu alehe wasalam se buhat piyar hain or un ke VILADAT ki khushi hian buhat magar SAHABA KARAM kasoosan Kulfae rashdeen RaziAllahtalanhum ko koi khushi nahi thi. unhian AAP Sallallahu alehe wasalam se itna ishq bhi tna tha jitna hamian hain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SITAM e hian ke Anhazrat Sallallahu alehe wasalam ki tareekh e viladat main tu ikhtilaf hian baaz 9 Rabiullawal batate hian , BAAZ 8 Rabiulawal batate hain or mashoor 12 hain.. lekin ye bhi mashoor han ke HAZOOR E PAK sallallahu alehe wasalam MONDAY ko duniya mian tashreef liya.. or aik hisab se ... (jo main ne sunna tha aik biyan main) monday ka din 12 ko parta hi nah hin monday ka din 9 ko parta hian , lekin is mina is cheez ka ikhtilaf nahi hian ke duniay se dage mufarkat de gaye .. agar ki hum se ye sawal kare ke tum loog "JASHNE EID" Anhazrat Sallallahu alehe wasalam ke viladate tayyaba par manate hon ? ya Anhazrat Sallallahu alehe wasalam ki vabat ki khusi hian ? (naoozubillah) tu shayed hamain us ka jawabdeena bhi mushkil ho ga. behar hal min is ko EID kehna mamooli baat nahi samjhti balke SAAF OR KHOOLE TOR PAR DEEN MAIN TEHREEF samjhti hoon. phir ye EID jis tarah Anhazrat Sallallahu alehe wasalam ki shaan e mutabiq manai jati hian . wo bhi laiq e sharam hain. bereesh larke galar salat natain parhte hian.. mozoo or manghatar kisse kahaniya jin ko HADEESH WA SEERAT ki kisi kitab main koi vajood nahi biyan ki jati hian shoor wa gub hotah ian. NAMAZIAN GARAT HOTi hian. or Namloom kiya kiya hota hian.. KAASH !!! Anhazrat Sallallahu alehe wasalam ke naam par jo "BIDDAT" ejad ki gai thi is main kam az kam AAP Sallallahu alehe wasalam ki azmat wa takaddus hi ko malhooz rakha jata. GAZAB tu ye samjha jata hiank e Anhazrat Sallallahu alehe wasalam banafse nafees tashreef bhi late ain...(haye mera ISLAM) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ibadat 2 Posted April 27, 2005 3. EMAN AAP ke SAWAL KA JAWAB kiya kiya biddat nahi hian? 1 , 2 Examples de rahi hon : Hasool e Ilm ke wo zaraie jo Anhazrat Sallallahu alehe wasalam or Sahaba wa tabaeen ke zamane ke bad ejad howy, in ko ihtiyar karna biddat nahi khelaye ga . (bashartika wo bazate kud jaiz hoon) kiuke ye zaraye hain . zaraye kud maksood bilzaat nahi balke mamoor e sharai ka zariya hain sirf. isi tarah maslan QuRAN KAREEM or HADEES E NABVI (Sallalahu lehe wasalam) main JAHAD ke buhat FAZAIL aye hain. or jo hathyar JIHAD main istamal kiya jate hain un ko ikhtayar karna mehas is liey "BIDDAT" nahi khelaye ga ke Anhazrat Sallallahu alehe wasalam wa Sahaba karam RaziAllahtalaanhu ke mubarak dor main ye alat wa zaraye nahi they. kiuke ye zaraye kud maksood bilzatt nahi na in ko bazzat e kud DEEN samjh kar kiya jata hain. is tarah safar HAJJ buhat bari ibadat hain. magar safar ke jadeed zaraye ikhtiar karna biddat nahi. kiuke howai jahaz ya behri jahaz amin bethne ko bazaat e kud ibadat nahi samjhta , balke hasool e ibadat ka zariyae tassawar kia jata hian. so, jo cheezain mamoorat e shariya ke liye zariya or vaseela ki heesiyat rakhti hian. in ka istamal jaiz hian, lekin kisi cheez ko bazat e kud DEEN ke kaam ki heesiyat se ijad karna biddat hain. 2, jo baat na QURAN KAREEM se sabit hoo, na HADEESH E NABVI (s) se, na taamali e SAHABA wa TABAEEN se or na fuqhaye ummat ke ijtahad wa qayas se w oDEEN se kharij hian, us ko na kisi buzurg ke Kashf wa Ilham se DEEN banaya ja sakta hain. or na kisi parhe likhye ke qayas arari se.... kiuke shareeyat ke dalail yahi 4 ahin jo main ne upper zikar kiya . in ke illawa kisi cheez ko sharai daleel ki heesiyat se peesh karna bajaye kud BIDDAT hian chejaika us se deeen ki kisi cheez k osabit kiay jaye. BIDDAT 2 QASMAIN hain aik eteqdi , doosri ali ---ETEQDI biddat ka matlab ye hain ke koi shaksh ya guroh ese akaid wa nazariyat rakhe jo Anhazrat Sallallahu alehe wasalam or Sahaba wa TAbaeen ke khilaf hon. age ja kar in ki buhhaat se kismain ban jati hain... baaz tu Kufria AKADID ban jate hian. jese QADIYANIYOON ka AKEEDA ke Anhazrat Sallallahu alehe wasalam ke bad bhi ---Naoozubillah--- naboowat ka darwaza khula hain.. ya ye ke Hazrat Esa Alehe Salam WAFAT pa chuke hain. wageera or baaz etedadi bidateen KUFAR tu nahi. magar in ko zalalat wa gumrahi kaha jaye ga. AMLI BIDDAT ye ke kisi akede main tu tabdeeli na hoon. magar baaz amal ese ikhtiyar kaiye jain jo salf salaheen se mankool nahi. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ibadat 2 Posted April 27, 2005 BIDAAT acoording to Anhazrat Sallallahu alehe wasalam 1 , Anhazrat Sallallahu alehe wasalam ne mardood wa maloon or zalalat wa gumrahi farmaya. 2, aik hadeesh main farmaya gaya hain ke biddati ka koi farz wa nafal ALLAH ki bargah main kabool nahi. 3, aik HAdeesh main irshad hian ke jis shaksh ne kisi sahab e biddat ki tukeer ki us ne ISLAM ko dhane main madad di. 4, aik or HADEESH main hain ke jo shaksh "ALJAMMAT" se aik balisht bhi door hata us ne ISLAM ka jowa apni GADAN se utar pheenka.. in irshadat se andaza kiay ja sakta hain ke Anhazrat Sallallahu alehe wasalam ko bazahir mamooli se biddat se bhi kis kadar nafrat thi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ibadat 2 Posted April 27, 2005 BIDDAT in kadar buri cheez kiu hian? 1 ... DEEN e ISLAM ki takmeel Anhazrat Sallallahu alehe wasalam ke zariye ho chuki hain or wo tamam batain jin se HAQ TALA SHANA ka QURB hasil ho skata tha in ko Anhazrat Sallallahu alehe wasalam ne biyan farma diya.. ab jo shaksh deen ke naam par koi BIDDAT ghar kar loogon ko us ki dawat deeta hain wo goa ye dawa karta hian ke Muhammad Sallallahu alehe wasalam ke deen Naoozubillah NAQAS r QURB wa RAZAYE KUDAvANDI ka jo rasta us ehmak ko maloom howa hia woMUHAMMAD Sallallahu alehe wasalam ko NAOOZUBILLAH maloom nahi howa. ya wo kehna cahata hai ke Shareat ka jo eham or mansaye Kuda Vandi ka jo idrak us mubtade ko howa wo na tu Anhazrat Sallallahu alehe wasalam ko howa or na Sahaba raziAllahtalaanhu wa tabaeen rehmatullahelehe .....naoozubillah. Algarz jo kaam Anhazrat Sallallahu alehe wasalam or sahaba RaziAllahtalaanhu wa Tabaeen ne nahikiay aaj jo shaksh us ko ibadat or deen batata hia wo na sirf salf salahen par balke Anhazrat Sallallahu alehe wasalam ke laye howe DEEN par hamla karta hian. pas ese shaksh ke mardood hone main kiya shuba hain? 2 : Bidat ke illawa admi jo gunnah bhi karta hia usse ye ehsaas hota hia ke main aik galat kaam kar raha hoon, wo us gunnah par pasheemman hota hain or us se tooba karl eeta ahi magar BIDDAT esa manhoso gunnah hai ke karne wala us ko galti samjh kar nahi balke aik ACCHAI samjh kar karta hia or shetan us gunnah ko us ki nazar maiesa khoobsurat bana kar peesh arta hian ke usey apni galt ravi ka kabhi ehsaas hi nahi ho paye or wo marte dam ta toba se mehroo rahey..yahi waja hai ke bare bare gunah garoon o tu toba ki tufeek ho jait hian.magar biddat ke mareez ko kabhi shafa nahi hoti.illa ye ke KUDA TLA ki khass rehmatus ki dastageeri kare or us ki burai us ke samne khool jaye... 3. BIDDAT insaan ko nahoosat or tareeki sunnat ke noor se mehroom kar deti hain... ANHAZRAT Sallallahu alehe wasalam ka irshad hai : tarjuma " jab koi koom koi se biddat ijad kar leti hia tu us ki misal sunnat us se utha li jati hai is lie chooti se bad word is not allowed isunnat par amal karna bazahir acchi se acchi biddat ijad karne se behtar hain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ibadat 2 Posted April 27, 2005 EMAN ye sab bari mehnat ke bad ,time lagane ke bad mila hain...so pliz time to lagey ga parhen main lekin parhiye ga zaroor... ye sab posts aap ke hi liye hian Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rukh 25 Posted April 27, 2005 (edited) hmmm Mashallah sub ki bohat zyada mehnut shamil hay ...mainy tamam posts ko perha hay ....ibadat nay bohat achay hawaloon or kutab say masail ko waziha kia hay ... is waqt do mozoo chal rahay hain jin per Aaman nay apni counfusion zahir ke hay or aik per sanum ka sawal hai Maild or Quran Khawni yeh dono bilkul alag cheezain hain .. Maild to Biddat hay is main koi shak nahi is per Ibadat ki posts behtreen hai..tamam dalail kay sath .. bake rahe dosre bat Qura khwani Quran khwani per jub yeh pocha jaye ga kay yeh Jaiz hay ya najaiz ..to is ka jawab yeh nahi ho sakta kay Quran Khwani Najaiz hai ..han is main kuch tafseel bayan ke jaye gee Ibadat nay apni post jis main Quran khawani kay jaiz na honay kay reason post keye ..us quran khwani ko kaha jata hay Murawaja Quran khuwani ..yani jo mehaz rasmo Rewaj kay tayhat ho rahee hain.. na Quran kay Adab or Ahtram ka maloom keranay walay ko hota na perhnay waloo ko to is Quran khwani ko Mana kia jata hay jahain Mehaz Quran ko Samnay rukh ker us ka mazaq uraya jata hay Lakin ager Quran Khwani aisee hay jis main yeh cheezain jo Ibadat nay bayan kee NA paye jain to woh Bilitfaq jaiz hay ..ager Quran Khwani keranay wala is kay tamam Adab or Ahkamat or Qawaid say waqif hay or woh us per perhnay walon ko chala sakta hay to phir bilshuba Quran Khwani sahee hay misal yeh lain kay Driving kerna koi Gunaah to nahi hay ..laki her banda ko Driving ki ijazat naho kion? jis ko Driving rules maloom hay to us kay driving sahe hay jis ko Driving nahi ate to us kay ley mana hay kay woh ab mehaz apna or dosroon ka nuqsan he keray ga bikul ayee he misal Quran khwani main lain jin ko maloom hay Quran khwani kay Adab kia hain woh kera lain or jo nahi jantay woh nahi karain kion quran ki bayadabee say behter hay kay na karain khud he gher main perh lain or yeh kehna kay Quran khwani ka saboot Sahaba ya App Salal alahoa lyhi waslam say sabit nahi yeh ghalat hay is ka sabot bilkul wazih tor per mojood hay han yeh kaha ja sakta hay ajj kal jis terh ki murawaja Quran khwaniain hain in ka koi saboot nahi Bakee tamam Sahaba Hafiz thay zahir hay us waqt App Salla Alho alyhi walsam kay dor main Quran kitabat ki soorat main nahi tha sub jub mil ker bethay to quran ko zabani he perhtay thay or yeh Quran khwani hay ! is main koi shak nahi or Quran Khwani is ko kaha jata hay ! aik bat Amman nay jo kahee kay hamray Ulma wiladat ki tarekh per to mutafiq ho na sakay to or kia karnama injam dain gay ? bat yeh kay kayee sahaba say kaye Aqwal jub aik he cheez kay baray main manqool hoon to phir is cheez main mujhthden o ulma apnay ilm or ijhtyahd say kisi aik qool ko laytay hain kuch dosray qol ko leytay hain or jis qool per zyada ulma ka itfaq ho us ko Sahee qool kaha jata hay ..or App Salal ALho alyhi waslam ki waldat per sahe Qool 9 Rabil ul awal hay ! Biddat ki aik bohat hee asan se tareef hay Her woh ibadat jis ka taswer nabi or sahba kay door main mojood tha lakin na Nabi nay kia na sahaba nay kia ..to us ko deen main bad main shamil kerna Biddat hay ab app khud soochain kitnay anbia app Salal Alho aylhi waslam say pehlay ayee to ager yeh wiladat per is terha tqreebat ka khsose intizam kerna or sirf aik khaas din hee yeh tamsahay kerna sahe hota to App Salal Alho alyhi walsam nay dosray Anbia kay waladat ka jashan kion na manaya ?? Ibadat usee waqt sahe hote hain jub un main Teen cheezon ka khiyal rakha jaye Kam = kis waqt kerne hay Kaif = kis terha kernee hay Aain= kitnee kernee hay ager koi shaks ibadat keray or in teen chezon ka khiyal na rakhay apni marze say waqt banaye kabhi zyada kabhi kam to us ko ibadat nahi kaha jaye ga! Edited April 27, 2005 by rukh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
**LaLa_1** 0 Posted April 27, 2005 JazaakuUMULLAH.........sub ne beri mehnet sey reply kia hai ..lekin main ne abhi pooray reply nahi perhay ....lekin ye add kerna chahoonga k dekhein AAMAAL ki kayee qismain hain, ek Jaaiz , doosra Najaaiz, makrooh tehremi (Haram k qareeb qareeb ) , Makrooh -e-Tanzeehi (halaal k qareeb qareeb) , Mubaah ( yani wo aamaal k jin k kerney sey na sawaab hota hai na gunaah) Eemaan ne jo ye kaha hai k Quran kion aisey kaaghaz main hai? Tableeghi Jamaat k Jalsay (IJtima'aat) ,Deeni Madaaris ki asnaad, and many more!! u can go there and read that post.....tou in ki khidmat main ye arz keroonga k Tableeghi Ijtima'aat ka hona Sahaba Karam k dour main bhi thaa or Nabi AKram (SalALLAHO ALAIHE WASALLAM) k dour main bhi , or Nabi AKram (SALALLAHOALAIHE WASALLAM) k dour main bhi or Sahaba Karam ( RA) k dour main bhi Jamaatein Alllah ki raah main bheji jaatin , tabligh k liye bhi or Jihad k liye bhi , or oos ka tareeqa-e-kaaar ye hua kerta k Logon ko masaajid main ikhatta ker lia jata ya khulay maidaano main or wahan sey jamaatein bana ker or oon k Ameer muqarrar ker k Allah Pak k rastey main bhej dia jata tou ye kehna k ye Ijtima'aat NAbi Akram (SALALLAHO ALAIHE WASALLAM) k zamaanay sey nahi thay , or na Allah K Nabi (SALALLAHO ALAIHE WASALLAM) Ijtimaa'aat munaqid kertey , sira ser ghalat hai! Quran ko khajoor k patton per likh ker mahfooz kerna bhi Nabi AKram (SALALLAHO ALAIHE WASALLAM) k zamanay main tha or Hazrat ABbu Bakar Siddiq (RA) k dour main bhi baqaaida Quran ko jama kia gaya jab Jang-e-Yamama main bohot sey Huffaz-e-Karam shaheed ker diye gaye thay ....or ab choonkay khajoor k patton ka tasawwoor khatam ho gaya hai tou Quran Majeed ko mukhtalif Iqsaam k Kaaghazon per mehfooz ker lia gaya hai .......Kisi bhi Qisam ka Kaaghaz use kerna Jaaiz hai ! or ye Biddat shumaar nahi ki jaayegi , ya aap isey Mubaah amal bhi keh saktay hain Deeni Madaaris ki asnaad k baarey main ye guzaarish hai k in isnaad ko sawaab samajh ker ya Deen ka hissa samajh ker nahi dia jata , bal k is liye ye asnaad dee jaati hain k choonkay ye BA ki degree k barabar hoti hai tou isey Official use k liye use kia jaa sakay..........isey bhi Deen ka hissa nahi samjha jata....aisa kerna Mubaah hai.................. Moazzin or Imam ki Tankhwa Hazrat Umer (RA) k zamanay main shuroo hui ..........jub Hazrat Umer(RA) ne in ki tankhahein or Wazeefay jaari kerna ka hukam dia thaa..kion k in ka koi or zerya Ma'aash nahi thaa lihaza Wazaaif or tankhaayein dee gayeen!! yahan ye baat waazih rahay k agar Imam ya Moazzin kisi or zerye sey Halal rizq kama raha hai tou oos k liye tankhaa lena jaaiz nahi!...or choonkay ye Sahaba k Zamanay main thaa or Hazrat Umer (RA) ne is ka hukam dia isi liye tankhaa lena jaaiz hai ! kion k Sahaba ki Itaat RasoolALLAH (SALALLAHO ALAIHE WASALLAM) ki itaat hai or RasoolAllah (SALALLAHO ALAIHE WASALLAM) ki itaat Allah ki itaat hai jaisa k Ahaadees sey saabit hai : "Nabi AKramm (SALALLAHO ALAIHE WASALLAM) ne irshad fermaya jis ka mafhoom hai k merey sahaba (RA) sitaaron ki maanind hain , tum jis kko bhi follow kero gey , Falaah paao gey!" WALLAHO ALAM Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
**LaLa_1** 0 Posted April 27, 2005 , Eraab ,terjuma , hashiyaa per tafseer etc madaaras, tareeqa e taleem, oqaat e taleem, emtahaanat , taqseem e asnad, salana chanada, assatza ke pay or jis Quran Pak per Airaab Hajjaj Bin Yousuf ne lagwaye thay taa k aam banda , yani meri tarah k jahil log aasani sey tilawat ker sakain........or agar ye Airaab lagwana ghalat hota tou Hazrat Umer Bin Abdul Aziz jo k Hajjaj k zamanay main thay , oonhein aisa kerney sey rok detey! Tarjuma , Tashreeh , Haashiya per Tafseer bhi mujh jaisey Aam Musalmaano ki aasaani k liye kia gaya! agar aisa na kiya jaata tou Quran ko samajhna or oos per amal kerna bohot mushkil ho jata.......Tareeqa-e-Taleem, imtihaanaat choonkay aisa kerna Quran o Hadis sey mutasaadim nahi or aisa kerna Deen ka hissa samajh ker nahi kia jata tou ye jaaiz hai! Tareeqa-e-Taleem kaisa he ho , magar koi gunaah ker k na kia jaaye , yaani kisi ko jhoot bol ker apnay Deen ki taraf Maail kerna naajaaiz hai! or Salaana CHanda maangna jaaiz nahi hai! mujhe tou hairat hoti hai , or sharam bhi aati hai k Allah k Ghar main ALlah k ghar k liye makhlooq k saamnay roomaal ko phiraya jata hai.............thats not Islam..ye jaaaiz nahi hai....ISlam tou Maqhlooq k bajaaye Allah sey maangna or Allah sey lena sikhata hai ! ............. WALLAHO ALAM! and Eeman....agar main ne sakht lehjey main baat ki hai tou aisa is liye hua k Deen per zarb lagaayi jaa rahi thee......mujhe aap ki zaat sey koi dushmani hai.................i m sorry if i got rude a little bit.! as u know mujhe ghussa bohot jaldi aajata hai! AssalamoALikum and ALlah Hafiz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
