mein_hoon_na 0 Posted May 27, 2005 The innovation of writing '786' replacing 'Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem' has been adopted for a long time and the majority of the Ummah is still indulged in it inadvertently. Apart from the common folk, the scholars also heed no attention towards it and to avoid disrespect to the Holy Words they use it in their letters and documents. They adopt it as 'correct' and 'better' way to invite Allah's blessings and have also started replacing the Holy Words by this number on their houses, offices, buildings, etc. Unfortunately, this tendency is gradually gaining momentum. But, do we see this number instead of the Holy Words in the Holy Quran? Or, can we write it there as well? can we remove 'Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem' from the top of Surah al-Faatiha and replace it with the number 786? Obviously not. If we study the Qur'aan, we see it carries the holy words in a letter from Prophet Sulaiman (AS) to the Queen of Sheeba - Bilqis - who was an infidel at that time. Even Prophet Muhammad (SAW) in his letters to different heads of states and governments, used the holy words at the top. Therefore, whosoever uses 786 with the intention to obtain Allah's blessings, is a misguided person and any attempt to justify it, is ignorance. More astonishing is that fact that '786' is an aggregation of the numbers of Hindu 'Lord Hari Krishna'. H(a)iri Kr(i)shna h-5, r-200, r-10, k-20, r-200, sh-300, n-50, a-1 = Aggregate of 786 Thus, the aggregate number of these letters (Hari Krishna) equals 786. This is also the case of 'Bismillaah al-Rahmaan al-Raheem'. Therefore, it is necessary to avoid using this number to avoid the danger of being indulging in infidelity. Islam's foundation is laid on the belief in Tawheed (oneness of God). If we associate anyone with Allah's exalted names orally or practically, we would be committing infidelity which is an unpardonable sin. The Quran warns us, one who finds a rival against Allah, Allah will never allow him to enter paradise, and his abode is the hell. The letters by the Prophet (SAW) to non-Muslim Kings and chiefs bear the holy words 'Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem'. This was also the case of his noble companions. Did the Prophet (SAW) and his companions respect the Holy Words less than we do? Was the verse, 'Today I completed your religion for you', revealed to the Prophet (SAW) or to the so called scholars of our age who are all bent to amend the Divine principles. Now, when it became known that '786' is written in place of Hindu, 'Lord Krishna', and has no significance in the Holy Quran and Sunnah, it is obviously an innovation and goes against the Divine doctrine of 'Obey Allah and His Prophet (SAW)'. Similarly, some Muslims replace Allah's name by the number '66' and the Prophet's name by '92'. But if one ask, the number '420' is used against somebody's name and he is called '420'. Can he bear such an insult? Calling someone by a nick name is a sin. Allah Ta'ala says, 'Don't call one another by nick names'. If Allah prohibits the use of nicknames for fellow human beings, how can He allow the use of such insulting replacement number for Himself and His Prophet (SAW). 'Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem' great significance in the Qur'aan and Muslims are ordered to begin any work but in the names Allah, not in the number of '786' or any other substitution. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
achi-bachi 0 Posted May 27, 2005 SALAM. KASHO BHAI V INFORMATIVE & GOOD HOPEFULLY WE WILL SE SOME MORE SOON Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ibadat 2 Posted May 27, 2005 well main ne is masla ka aik kitab main parha tha jis main likha tha ke koi harg nahi hain agar aap786 ko likh lein or wo aik JAYAD ALIM E DEEN they or SAHEED bhi ho gaye ab tu naam main batoon gi bad main pehlye kud again parh loo ye masla .... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mein_hoon_na 0 Posted May 28, 2005 jee haan is baray mein aik sahib aur hain unhoonnay atraz kia tha mein yahan wo sawal and us ka jawab bhi post kernay ki try kerta hoon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mein_hoon_na 0 Posted May 28, 2005 Janab Kiyon Aap shareef aur bhole bhalay logoon ko galat taleem day kar dhoka dain rahe hain bhai aap nay hari krishna main khoobsurti say logon ko dhoka diya hai hari krishna main ek jaga aap a ko counting main shumar karte hain dosri jaga nahin jab ka hindi main a aate hi nahin. logon ko dhoka mat do aur sunni aalim say is ka sahi jawab maloom karo ya mujh say kaho main aap ko is ka mukamal jawab scan kar kay donga yeh sawal tha ya tanqeed Frozmemon sahib ki in reply jo kia hai wo bhi send kerta hoon mein :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mein_hoon_na 0 Posted May 28, 2005 ATTN Mr. Feroz Majeed, Well you asked to answer in urdu so i'm giving you answer in urdu. Aap ne shayad 786 ke baray main pehli mail aur phir yameenuddin ki e-mail theek se samjhi nahin. Hamaray maashray main bohat sari ghalat riwayat is tarah se raaij hain jin ka hamaray deen se koi taaluq nahin lekin usay islam se mansoob kya jaata hai, main un riwayat ki baat kar raha hoon jin ka islam hamain paband karta hai ke usay usi tarah kya jaey jis tarah Allah ke Nabi (Sallala ho Aleh wassalam) ne tareeqa apni ummat ko bataya, Hajj per aap plane main baith kar jain ya " Paidal " Islam us ki pabandi nahin lagata lekin Hajj ka tareeqa jo Quran-O-Hadees ke mutabiq bataya gaya hai us main aap addition ya subtraction apni taraf se nahin kar saktay. Kal ko agar kisi ne LABBAIK ALLAAHUMA LABBAIK ke digits nikal kar hajj main parhna shuroo kar diye ( Jis tarah Bismillah ko 786 main convert kya gaya hai ) to phir is baray main aap kya kahain ge , kya woh bhi jaaiz ho ga, ? , merey bhai is cheez ko deen main biddat ya biddah (Yani deen main izafa ) kaha gaya hai, yahan per main ek hadees quote karna chahoon ga , Huzoor Nabi Kareem (Sallalah o aleyh wasallam) ne farmaya , "HAR BIDAT GUMRAHI HAI , AUR HAR GUMRAHI JAHANNAM KI TARAF LE JANAY WALI HAI " (Saheeh Muslim). " ALL BIDAH ARE ASTRAY AND IT WILL LEAD TO HELL FIRE " Allah Hafiz Mohiuddin Parekh Karachi, Pakistan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mein_hoon_na 0 Posted May 28, 2005 ATTN Mr. Mohiuddin Parekh Is baar phir aap nay bhi yeh masla hal nahin kiya kay jo pehli mail main likha tha kay 786 hari krishna ka digit hai aur hindon ki rasm hai awwal to aap is ko sabit karain kisi hindoan ki kitab main likha ho ya woh mante ho. Aap nay jo Hadith pak likhe muslim shareef say us main likha hay har bidaat gumrahi hai yeh to nahin likha sirf deen kay har kaam main izafa biddat hai to haj per plane say jaana bhi biddat hua aur kiya woh bhi jahanum ki aag ki taraf lejana wala kaam hua chalo yeh bhi maan liya jai duniyvi ejadaat ko biddat nahin to shayad aap ka nazdeek cinema , TV , VCR, Dish Antena Aur cable jasi biddaat bhi bidat main dakhil nahin aur agar hain to dosri jaiz (jaise Haj per jaana plane ya train say) ijadaat kiyon biddat say kharij hain to mere bhai biddat ko aap nay sahi nahin samjha Biddat ki do iqsam hain. achi biddat aur buri biddat. achi biddat us nay kaam ko kehtay hain jo deen ka khilaf na ho. aur buri biddat us naye kaam ko kehte hain jo deen kay khilaf ho is ke dalil main yeh hadith pak dekhiye "Jis nay Islaam main acha tariqa ijaad kiya us kay liye us ka aur us kay baad main amal karnay walaon ka ajar hai. baghair us kay ke un kay ajar main kami ki jai aur jis nay islam main bura tariqa ijaad kiya us per us ka aur baad main amal karnay walaon ka gunah hai baghari us kay ke un kay gunahaon main kuch kami ki jai.'' (Mishkat Shareef - Ba Hawala Muslim Page 33 Jild 1) Maloom hua Islam achi ijaddat ki hosla afzai aur buri ijadaat ki hosla shikni kart ahi aur unhi acha aadat ko achi biddat aur buri ijadaat ko buri biddat kehtay hain. zeel main kuch aisi biddat ka zikar karta hoon jo aaj duniya bhar main raij hai 1) Namaz-e- Taraveh Pabani kay sath bajamaat ada karna 2) Quran -e- Kareem ko kitabi shakal dena Yeh do kaam to sarkar (Alaih-e-salaam) kay zamany main nahin thay 3) Quran-e-Pak per Nuqtay Aur araab 4) Quran-e-Pak Ko 30 Parts main divide 5) Khatem-e-Ayat per elamat kay taur per Nuqtay ya dairay 6) Masjid main mehrab 7) 6 Kalmay 8) Ilm e Sarf w nahw ( Arabic Grammer ) 9) Ilm e Hadith aur Ahadith ki Iqsaam 10) Dars e Nizami 11) Shraiat Wa Tariqat Ka 4 Silsilay 12) zaban say namaz ki niyat 13) plane Kay Zaariya Haj ka Safar 14) Jadid Science Hathyaraon Kay zariya Jihad Yeh saray kaam us mubarak dor main nahin thay lekin ab unhain koi gunah nahin kehta to Aakhir 786 likhna kiyon gunah hogaya. aur 786 likhna us dor main jaiz nahin kaha gaya to najaiz bhi nahin kaha gaya to yaqenan yaqenan yaqenan har woh cheez jis ko shariat nay mana nahin kiya woh jaiz hai. ab masla reh gaya ka 786 achi biddat hai ya buri ab jab koi banda is niyat say Bismillah ki jaga 786 likhta hai kay Bismillah Ayat-e-Qurani hai aur is ki tazeem main ya koi aur nahin karsakenge to Huroof abjad kay hisab say woh bismillah ka digit nikal kar 786 likhta hai take woh beadbi say bach jai to yaqenan achhi biddat hai . aur yeh koi farz o wajib nahin ya kay nahin likha to gunah milayege ek acha kaam hain karain ge to Ayat e Quran ki tazeem ki wajah say usay sawab bhi milayga.. Kiya hum nahin dekhtay akhbar main kitabaon kay title per Bismillah likhay honay ki surat main log be wajoo choo letay balke kuch to junbi(Jin per gusal farz hota hai) woh bhi choo letay hain aur letter main likhnay say padhnay kay baad buhat say log usay utha kar phenk dete hain wedding card per be wajoo hath lagaya jaata hai aur phir usay bhi kachraon main phenk diya jaata hai to kiya is say bachnay keliye yeh karna sahi nahin hoga thoda gor karain yeh koi ana ki baat nahin deen ki baat hai Quran Allah ka kalaam hai aur aap bhi musalman hai aur main bhi to us ki tazeem karna aap per bhi aur mujh per bhi farz hai lekin aap log is achay kaam ko pata nahin kiyon bura kehnay per lage hue hain meri samajh main nahin aati ek aur baat 786 ko kitnay aalimoan nay acha kaam kaha to kiya woh sab bhi galat hain. umeed hai thanday dil say gor karain gay aap ka bhai Feroz Majeed [/code] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mein_hoon_na 0 Posted May 28, 2005 ATTN: Mr.Feroz Majeed Assalam alekum, sab se pehlay to aap yeh website visit kijiye www.mymaharaja.com/bio.htm yeh woh website hai jahan hindus ne apnay maharaja ke liye banai hai , yahan aap ko maharaja ki complete biography milay gi , Neechay main woh alfaaz copy paste kar raha hoon jo is biography page per maujood hain =================================== MAharaja present their first CD «786» produced by Azzouz, to be released between April and September 2002 worldwide. «786», is the numerology which stands for the verse of Bismillah, a Muslim blessing. Astonishingly, this numerical aggregation also relates to the Hindu Lord Hare Krishna. With one number Hindus and Muslims come together. ====================================================== ab yeh website kisi musalmaan ne nahin banai ho gi yaqeenan, woh is baat ko khud is website per likh rahay hain ke " With One Number Hindus and Muslims Come Together" jahan tak achhi aur buri biddat ka sawal hai to aap mujhe yeh batain ke yeh faisala kon karega ga ke konsi biddat achhi hai aur konsi buri ? Hamara deen to 1400 saal pehlay mukammal ho chuka hai jaisa ka Huzoor (Sallala ho aleyh wasallam ) ne Apnay aakhri khutbay main farmaya, ke hum ne tumharay liye aaj deen ko mukammal kar diya. Ab aap keh rahay hain TV, VCR ki baat to merey bhai yeh to waise hi gunah hain, biddat ki to defination hi yeh hai ke deen main addition , jo kaam hum sawab samajh kar kartay rahain aur woh dar haqeeqat deen ka hissa hi na hon. 786 ka taluq maharaja se sabit karti hui ek aur website mulahiza kijiye http://www.asphalt-tango.de/maharaja/cds.htm MyMaharaja.com ka Home page yahan se dekhiye ( www.mymaharaja.com ) jahan Indian Airlines ka Scan hua wa Ticket maujood hai jis my wazeh taur per Maharaja ka naam , photo aur left side per 4 martaba 786 likha hua maujood hai. Allah Hafiz Mohiuddin Parekh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mein_hoon_na 0 Posted May 28, 2005 Is k baad in Sahib ki koi mail nahi aaye ALLAH Hum sab ko naik rah per chalnay ki tofeeq day aamen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ibadat 2 Posted May 28, 2005 Main bad main parhoo gi offline ho kar , itni detail se jawab dene ka shukria well main bhi dekhtii hon wo 10 books hian MASAIL ki ab us mian dhoodna parey ga mujhy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sanum 0 Posted May 28, 2005 hmmmmmmmmm aap ki ye post kuch kuch dil ko lagti hay aur kuch kuch nahi manay aaj ye pori post parhi hay per us site ka visit nahi kiya jahan tak aap ki baat hay qurran may bismillah ki jagha 786 nahi tu wahan Muhammad k baad bhi her jagha salalahu Alahay wasalum nahi likha hoa aur bidat tu bidat hay us may achi ya bori ya kiya sawal zeel main kuch aisi biddat ka zikar karta hoon jo aaj duniya bhar main raij hai1) Namaz-e- Taraveh Pabani kay sath bajamaat ada karna 2) Quran -e- Kareem ko kitabi shakal dena Yeh do kaam to sarkar (Alaih-e-salaam) kay zamany main nahin thay 3) Quran-e-Pak per Nuqtay Aur araab es baat nay mojhe sach may preshan kar dea hay kiya ye sach hay esi he ek post pehle qaasim bhi post kar chokey hein per yaad nahi k wo yahi thi ya dosri Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
