rukh 25 Posted May 13, 2005 (edited) walikum salam ..bus kuch masroofiyat ki wajha ay waqt nahi milta ../exam bhi ab qareeb qareeb hain is ley or zyada damgh ghooma hoa hay bat kay agay peechay honay say mera nahi khiyal koi nuqsan hota asal maqsad hamra maslay ko samjhna tha ager ik bat dobara rrepeat bhi hojaye to kia herj hay pop apnay mazahib k logon ko gumrah ya jo kuch tha onhain he kar raha tha phir tu wo maar gaya phir osay kiya kehna aur ye unka religious tradition hay POP sirf un logoon ko gumarh nahi kerta jo un kay mazhab kay hotay hain bulkay jub dosray mazhab kay log bhi us kay pass jannay atay hain to un ko bhi gumrah kerta hay..or bilferz yeh man laiya kay apnay mazhab kay logon ko gumrah kia to app soochain ager woh un ko such bata dain kay asal kitab main kia ahkmat thay to kia sub muslman na ho jaain gay ?? ..zahir hay asal kitab main to Nabi Salal Allaho alyhi waslam ka zikker mojod tha Yeh pop bohat achee terha jantay hain kay in ki ASAL kitab main kia tha or kahan kahan inhoo nay badla hay lakin haq ko chupatay hain .. app kay nazdeeq shaid yeh kuch nahi kay lakin QURAN is per itnee sakht waedain sunata hay kay der lagta hay hum kis terha ik bat ko jantay hoyee bhi chup rahain bakee pop mer gya to ab kehnay ka kia faida ...is ko mainy pehlay hee waziha er chukee hoon Bukharee main aik bab hay Zikrul shararo moota app us ko perhain app kay samnay aik aik bat clear ho jayee gee us main ik daleel yeh bhe hay Abu lahad ki Muzamat main Allah nay quran main ik Sorah rukhee ..Abu Lahab to mer gya per ajj bhi hum woh sora perhtay hain or Abu Lahab ko us sorah main bad dua hay kia hum woh sorah nahi perhtay ?? Abu Lahab nay hum ko ya app ko kia kaha tha ?? us nay bhi apnay logoon ko islam main anay say roka tha or hazoor Salal Alho alyhi waslam ko bura kaha tha ab woh mer gya kia ab us sorah ko perhna app kay nazdeek sahee nahi bat wohee hay her bat ka ik hee jawab hay jo hamaray nabi ko bura kahay ji hamray deen ko bura kahay us ki muzamat kerna wajib hay aap ka ye kehna gallat tha k shir khatum hoa jab k uski jagha ek aur new pop nay lay lei...us k baad phir koi aur aaey ga aur ye silsila chalta rahay ga ghalat ? hergiz nahi mera aik aik lafz bolkul sahee tha ..app kahain gee kay rukh zyada over confidence ho rahee hay lakin Allah ka shuker hay mainy apnay is post per jub ik Alim say deryfat kia kay kay mainy sahee kaha ya ghat unhoon nay meray is Ammal ko Haq kaha or hosla afzaye ki ! pop kay bad dosra pop aye tessra .. jo bhi aiysa ho ga woh sher he ho ga ..mainy yeh nahi kaha tha dunya say Sher heee khtum ho gya mainay ka tha pop ik sher the or us ka jana aisa hay jaiai Ik sher ka khatma hoa ..bakee jis terha islam qaymat tuk baqe rahay ga is terha kuffer bhi baqee rahay ga qyamat tuk kuffe or haq ki jung jare rahay gee Edited May 13, 2005 by rukh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sanum 0 Posted May 15, 2005 (edited) bat kay agay peechay honay say mera nahi khiyal koi nuqsan hota asal maqsad hamra maslay ko samjhna tha ager ik bat dobara rrepeat bhi hojaye to kia herj hay ji bilkul koi harj nahi hay... tumhain ek ajeeb baat bataoon.. go k es baat ka es topic se koi lena dena nahi... meray pass yahan ek banda aata hay jo mojhe every month 2 books day jata hay 1)watchtower 2) Awake ek dafa mari aur oski bari behas hogaey...(tum tu meri aadat janti ho :D) yahi religion k topic pay osi nay bataya k wo christin hay par roman ya catholic nahi balke wo Johava watcher kehlatay hein aur inkay aqaed aur baki 2 groups k believes totally different hein...in k pass real bible hay osi nay kaha k os may App SAlalaho Alahay wasalum ka bhi ziker hay par inhoon nay ek ajeeb baat ki hay bible may inhoon nay jahanum/Hell ka concept he khatum kar dea hay bible may say es baat ko inhoon nay es chapter ko inhoon nay khatum kar dea hay apni book may say...ye baki k saray gallat kaam nahi kartay na without marriage ya gf Bf ka koi concept nahi in may...na he ye sari gallat rasmain yani Holoween, Xmass , baki ki sari rasmain nahi celebrate kartay...apni charch ko charch nahi kehtay balkey wahan jatay bhi nahi balke inka alag place hay ibadat k liye jesay ye Jehavah's kingdom kehtay hein jo bilkul simple hay aur ye bhi mortiyoon ko haram kehtay hein... main kafi hairan hoey uski batain jaan k par haan shirk tu kartay hein ye bhi k apnay prophet ko son of God (Astagfirullah )kehtay hein...ab k baar aay na tu us say website ka pochon gi k koi hay unki phir bataon gi inshallahAllah gawah hay manay kabhi wo books nahi parheen par uski dil aazari na ho main wo books lay leti hoon...kiya ye gallat hay? Rukh>>>ye waedain kiya hota hay ...taqeed ya wasihat na? rukh phir wahi baat chanda Abu lahab ka koi mazhab nahi tha wo kafir tha aur Islam ka sakht dushman aur hamaray nabi k sath us nay kitna bora kiya...tabhi esa hay manay aap ko gallat nahi kaha balke ye kaha k hamara ye manna gallat hay k shir khatum hogaya jab k ek ki jagha naya lay leyta hay qayamat tuk kuffe or haq ki jung jare rahay gee rukh yahan phir behas start hoti hay k Allah ka kehna hay balke ye qayamat ki nishani hay k muslims sab kuch bhool jain gay deen say baygana tabhi Hazrat Esa (As) aur Imam Mehdi ka zahoor hoga aur wo onhain sahi rehnomaey karain gay phir qayamat hogi..tu kiya ye sab matlab ye pop,ye dosray mazahib,muslims ki kamzoor halat onhi halaat ki nishandahi nahi karti..ye sab hona hay aur barhaq hay...kiya phir bhi hum esa keh saktay hein ? Red rose>>>aap ko kiya hoa wasay es waqt aap k avatar aur es emoticon nay mojhe hamaray ek old mem,ber ki yaad dela di sSIDD...jo pata nahi kahan hein aur kidher hein Edited May 15, 2005 by sanum Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rukh 25 Posted May 16, 2005 (edited) sanum mere khiyal main is topic ko main yahen end ker doon mujhay is ka ab koi faida nazer nahi araha ....behaus baraye behus hee shroo ho gayee hain ...asal maqsad hee khatum ho gya hay bat ka bakee jub maini firoon ki misal dee tub bhi app nay yehe kaha kay woh lamazhab tha , mainay abu lahab ki misal dee tub bhi app nay yehe kaha .. abu lahab ka koi mazhab kion na tha?? woh kehtay nahi thay hum apnay abaoo ajdad kay mazhab per chalin gay Quran main kia nahi aya yeh bar bar firoon ka mazhab nahi tha ..or baqool app kay abu lahab ka mazhab nahi tha or yeh Pop ka mazhab hay bhi to kia app is mazhab ko sahe mante hain ? jub in kay mazhab ki koi bunyad he nahi to kis ferq hay in main or un main ?? app nay kaha abu lahab kafir tha islam ka dushman to tha ..or kitne ajeeb bat hay kay main app ko quran ki ayat say sabit ker diya kay ahle-kitab ko ALAH khud KAFFIR keh diya ..app nay kaha abu lahab islam ka dushman tha mainy app ko bataya kay pop bhi islam kay dushman hain behrhal yeh batain to main itne dafa dohra chuke hoon kay ab dobara kehna ki zaroorat nahi jub koi Alam merta hay kion saree umamt-e-muslim rotee hay ? app un ko kaheen gee na rooo yeh ghalat hay kay Alim mer gya bulkay is ki jagha or alim ajye ga yeh kia bat hoye her cheez apni haysiyat rakhte hay ...ab main kehte hoon Aik sher khtum hoa to ap kehte hain kay nahi us ki jagha dosra ajaye ga ..os ki jagha dosra aya ya teesra ...lakin us ik say jo sher phylta tha woh to khatum hoa na .... phir app kaisai keh sakte hain kay hamra yeh mana ghalat hay ??? kuffer or haq qaymat tuk baqe rahay ga ..ainy apnai post main WAZHia likha hay kay mainy yeh nahi kaha dunya say SHER heee khatum ho gya just said IK sher khtum ho .. yane ik aisa banda dunya say gya jo sirapa sher tha or kuch nahi or mainy kis bat kay jawab main kaha tha woh bhi app mad-e-nazar raukhain ! bakee jo app nay sawal poocha ... ager koi female hote to theek hay app aisa ker sakte then lakin aik non muslim male say bat kerna or is maqsad say books laina kay dil azare na ho is per main kuch nahi keh saktee .. kion kay PERDAY kay khiaf ammal hay! WAeed > ka mutlub hay Azab ki khaber ..sakht muzmat .. Jazakmullaho khaira wa ahsan al jaza ! koi bat skhat lagay to mazrat khuh hoon .. abhi naqis ilm hay shaid is ley mere bat samjhnay ka tareeqa drust nahi ...ALLAH hum ko or app ko ilm o aml ki tofeeq ata fermaye ameen ! Edited May 16, 2005 by rukh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aaman_Eman 0 Posted May 17, 2005 (edited) sorry Rukh Edited May 17, 2005 by AAMAN_EMAN Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sanum 0 Posted May 17, 2005 (edited) Sorry Rukh lagta hay k aap nay mind kar liya jab k mera maqsad esa nahi tha aur na he behas baraey behas ...maybe hum donno ek dosre ko baat nahi samjha paey bus yahi baat hay... ager aap nay baki parts apni notepad may likhey hein tu plz onhain yahan post kar dejeay ga warna jesay aap ki marzi... donno jagha manay esa kyun kaha us ki wajjha ye hay k aap nay quran ka hawala deya k hum es aayat ho reject tu nahi karain gay na tu manay uska jawab dea k unka muzhub etc...jab k mera aap bhi yahi point hay k christina se ziyada hum khoud aur hamaray apnay kuch groups shir aur fitna hein... ajeeb maybe aap ko es liye lag raha ho meri baat k meri start say lay k aap tak ki posts may yahi baat hay kiya mazhab say ziyada insaniyat important nahi?tabhi ye baat itna toooool paker gaey bus yahi baat thi aur kuch nahi... meri es gallati say plz naraz ho k baki k topics pay mori rehnomaey karna na chor dena plzzzzzzz k main sach may sekhna chahti hoon dil ki gehraey say.... ek dafa phir mazrat jab se aap ka ye reply parha tha na tu main kafi depress thi sachi mera dil bhi nahi kar raha tha kaheen reply ko sachiiiii par kiya hay na k main kuch dheet bhi hoon :D :D aur kisi ki narazgi much say bardasht bhi nahi hoti Edited May 17, 2005 by sanum Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rukh 25 Posted May 18, 2005 Assalmau alikum mere behnoo bat mind kernay ki ya sorry ki nahi hai ..bat app kay faiday ki hay main quran or hadees say dalel dayte hoon main yahan ik ik lafz ulma or mufti say pooch ker likhtee or conferm kerte hoon lakin sanum app mehaz apnai aqal per un cheezon per dalail qaaim ker rahee hain or mujhy der hay is main app ka nuqsan na hojayee muslal quran or hadeed per taweelain paish kerna humaray iman kay kitna nuqsan deh hota hay .. yeh bayan kerna mushkil hay,,h sirf app kay nuqsan kay der say main is topic ko end ker diya ... app kay nazdeek Insaniyat pehlay hay meray nazdeek mazhab pehlay main mazhab say insaniyat ko sabit keron gee app insaniyat say mazhab ko sabhit kerain gee to hum kis terha bat ko suljha pain gay ? main quran or hadees say abul lahub or firoon ki misal dee jis ki tafseer mainay sahiku hadees wa tafser say sunee or app nay mehuz apni aqal say baghir kisi qurani or hadess ki daleel k us per apna jawab day dya mujhai batain sanum main app ko kis terah qail ker sakte hoon jub app quran hadees aqawal-e-ulma per he aytmad nahi kerain gee ? jahan tuk app ka yeh point hay christian say zayda hum khud or hamray goups shir pasand hain main sirf itna kahoon gee kay awal to kuffar kay muqablay per muslman ko la ker muslman ko neecha kerna sahkat ghalat ammal hay Allah is per apnay azab ki waeed sunatay hain .. app jo nam neyhad muslman hain or ghalat aqaid rakhtay hain un kay ley alag topic la ker un kay aqeedoon ko muzamat kerain ... lakin app ik aisee jagha jahan Kuffer ki muzamat ki jarahee hain wahan yeh bat kerain kay muslman khud kharab hai in kaffir say or un ko haq nahi kay woh kisi or ko bolain .. app batain app apna deen buland ker rahee hain ya apnay deen ko kuffer kay muqablay main la ker kam ker rahe hain,? kuffar ko mazaq uranay ka moqa day rahe hain app kay yeh to khud apnay app ko hum say bura kehtay hain in ka mazhab acha hota to yeh aisay na kehtay ..yeh to apnay app ko hum say bura kehtay hain to hum sahe hoyee app ki sirf is ik bat say DEEN kitna halka ho raha hay shaid app nay gehraye main ja kar dekha nahi ...aisa to quran nay bhi nahi kaha quran jub kufar say jung ki bat kerta hay to kehta hay jahad kero jub munafiq muslmano say saza ki bat kert ahay kehta hay khoob maroo ..jahad ka lafz istimal nahi kerta sirf is lay kuffar ko batain bananay ka moqa na milay kay yeh to apus main apnay logon ko bhi martay hain kitnee ahtyat ki zarorat hay kitnee zyada ... or mujhay app ki inhee baton say der mehsoos hoa sanum kay app samjh nahi parahee or kaheen app ka nuqsan na ho jayee ...meray pass itna ilm nahi kay app kay sara ashkal door ker sakoon main to jo sunte hon perhte hoon bata dayte hon ..main khud kuch nahi ! main naraz nahi hoon sanum bus main der gayee ... main app ki rehnumaye kia keron gee mujhay khud zaroorat hay app mujh say jo poochte hain main alim say poch ker likh dayte hoon sirf aik zareya hoon main ... lakin hum rehnumaye tubhe hasil ker saktay hain jub hum aiytmad kerain apnay usatdoon kay jo bata raha hay sahee hay jub aytmad na hoga to shytan kabhi app ko kabhi us bat ko samjhnay na day ga woh ap kay dil main shak shubhat dalta rahay ga isee ley sora naas main WAsawas say panahmange hay jub dil main waswasay shubhat ajain to insan kisi bat per nahi ther paata deen kay mamlat main dono teraf lilah fillah Allah ki raza kay ley hasil kerna ki neyat zaroe hay apna nafs apnai aqal apnai ana apni soochain apnai izat apni har jeet yeh sub batain nahi mere post perh ker jo members depres hoyee main un say aik he derkhuast keron gee ..app yeh mut dekhain kay kon keh raha hay yeh dekhain kia keh raha hay Allah hum ko apnay deen ka ilm hasil kernay kay adab adab sikhlaye or us maina anay walay shaytnee mushkilat say hifazat main rakay ameen suma ameen ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
