madseriously 0 Posted April 9, 2005 Asalam0alikum! ALAS! da gr8 Pop JHON PAUL II died Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
**LaLa_1** 0 Posted April 11, 2005 (edited) ALAS! da gr8 Pop JHON PAUL II died when i saw these lines ...i thought u r a christian........ Asalam0alikum! walikum salam ......but when i saw Assalamoalikum ..i come to know that u r a muslim alhamhoLILLAH.............. kitnay dukh or afsos ki baat hai k hum musalmaan ho ker bhi ye baatein ker rahay hain k the "great" pop has died!!! kitnay azeem Ulama is dunya sey chalay gaye ...lekin kisi ko itna dukh na hua ...:(...or ek Christians ka big boss merta hai tou poori dunya k musalmaan bhi christians k ghum main shareek ho jaatay hain .....afsos hai aaj k musalmaano per ....apnay hukmuraano per ...apni media per ...k poora week ye he dikhaatay rahay ....khabron main 10 minutes tak pop john paul k ilawa kuch thaa he nahi siwayye Pop k ...or jub Mufti Shamizai ko shaheed kia jata hai tou aakhir main thora sa bata detey hain k jee Mufti saab ko "qatal" ker dia gaya , haalaan k ye qiamat ki nishaanion main sey hai k Ilm ko is dunya sey utha liya jaayega or wo is soorat main hoga k Ulama ek ek ker k is dunya sey rukhsat hotay jaayeingey kehtey hain jee k Sadar or Wazeer-e-"Azam" ne dukh or ranj ka izhaar kia hai ....................abhi pop mera bhi nahi thaa or in k bayaan aagaye TB(tv) per! or KOI AALIM Shaheed hota hai tou na saddar ka pata hota hai na oos k tattoo ka !!! Astaghfirullah..............Allah Pak humain is fitnay sey bachaaye!! AAMEEN......... Edited April 11, 2005 by **LaLa_1** Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
*jadoo* 0 Posted April 11, 2005 salam every one :hi: very rite lala1 i am with u ........ ALLAH hum sab koo sahee galt koo samjnee kee toofeeq ayta farmeyee ..... :( aameen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Syra 0 Posted April 12, 2005 Lala u r right i agree....Allah haimain maaf keray :( ammen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rukh 25 Posted April 12, 2005 Lala > 101 % right aisai logoon kay jana to aisa hay jaisai duniya say kissi sher ka khatma ho or is per to khush hona chaeye na ka afsos ka izhar bakee rahe hamare gov uss ko to ager bush ka koi dog bhi mer jayee to bara ifsos ho gaa lakin apnay mulk main kitnay log mertay hain kuch pata nahi in ko do terha kay log hotay ik woh jin kay meray per sara alam rota hay or woh hotay naik log jaisai ulma-e-deen berhaq or aik woh hota hay jis kay merna per sara lam sakon ka saans laiyta hay kay is ka sher khtum hoa or woh hotay hai kaffir o mushrik log jaisai jhon paul Shukar Allah ka jis na aik Fitna dunya say utha liya ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sanum 0 Posted April 12, 2005 (edited) Main es section may nahi aati sirf Meeri ki post k liye aati thi ya agar board index pay Rukh ka naam dekhoon tu tab :) k wo meri ustad hein aur main inki koi post miss karna nahi chahti aur Lala k replies bhi zabar10 hotay hein Lala>>> bohat zabar10 baat kahi...dil ko cho gaey aap ki baat bus yahi alamiya hay hamara Rukh>>>mashallah say manay aap say bohat sekha hay aur sekh rahi hoon par ek baat pay hamesha thori behas ho jati hay agarchay mera Ilam aap say bark k nahi par jo mohje meri aqal k lehaz say acha nahi laga wo yahan likh rahi hoon agay aap batain k main kis had tak sahi hoon :) mojhe aap ki es baat say sakht ikhtilaf hay Shukar Allah ka jis na aik Fitna dunya say utha liya ! marna sab nay hay yahan main ek wakiya kehna chahon gi k ek dafa HAzrat AYesha (RA) ne kisi morday ko bora bhala kaha tu App (SAW) ne kaha k osay bora na kaho k woh apnay anjaam ko pohanch choka hay... yahi fakar tu hamain lay doba hay k hum mosalmaan hein aur janat hamaray liye he hay...muslamaan honay konsa hamara apna kamal hay ye tu us parwadgar ka karoroon karoroon ehsaan hay k us nay hamain es paak mazhab k liye chona...yaad hoga farishtoon nay jab Allah khalaqay Qainaat insaan ko takhleek kar rahay thay tu onhon nay pocha tha k kiya hum aur jin kafi nahi aap ki riyazat aur Ibadqat k liye.. zingadi aur mout denay walla wo Allah pak hay phir hum ye kasay kisi ki zindagi pe comments kar saktay hein k choti ya barri meray piyaray behan bhiyoon hum koun hotay hein kisi ko bora bhala kehnay wallay k falan bohat naik hay falan bohat baad k kabhi kabhi hamari sari zindagi k reyazatain/ebadatain raigan jati hein aur kabhi ek naki Allah ko itni pasand aati hay k wo hamaray gonahoon pay bhari par jati hay aur wo MAlik maaf kar deya hay... yaad hoga aap sab ko wo kissa k ek bohat bori Aurat thi par us ne ek piyasay kotay ko pani pillaya aur Allah nay osay maaf kar deya uska har gunnah esi tarha ek aur qissa hay k kisi jang may App SAW k paas ek sahabi ko ye keh k paish kiya gaya k usnay nahaq kisi ka khoon kar deya k usnay kalamaa perh liya tha jab App SAW nay us say pocha k tum nay us k bawajood esa kyun qatal kiya tu us nay kaha k Ya Rasool Allah SAW us nay mout k khouf say kalama perha tha tu aap SAW nay kaha k kyun tum nay uskay dil may kiya jhank k dekha tha k wo kafir hay ya musalmaan tareekhay Islam esay kai qisoon say barhi pari hay phir bhi aap esa kehtay ho jab k hamara muzhab tu hamain Insaniyat ka dars deta hay kiya yahi insaniyat hay :( aur tu aur Handaa yaad hogi aap ko jis nay App SAW k sab say piyaray chacha Hazrat Hamza k janazay ek shaheed k janazay k sath kiya salook kiya aaj bhi wo sab yaad kar k rouh kanp jati hay par Mosalmanon nay balkay Khoud app SAW nay osay kuch na kaha koi badla na liya na he galli galoch ki Astagfirullah aaj k dour may esa hota tu hum tu osay waheen khatam kar detay osay tu osay balkay uska saray khandaan ka wo hashir karta k bus. ek aur kisa ek khatoon jo k aap SAW pay roz kora dala karteein thi jab ek roz na dala tu aap SAW hayraan hoay k esa kiya hogaya maloom honay pay k wp bemaar hay app SAW khoud uski ayadat ko gaey tub onhoon nay ye kaha k wo tu kafir hay bori hay mornay do osay acha hay ek fitna kum hoga wagera wagera jesa aap keh rahay ho phir marnay walla pop mera koi sagga nahi tha ;) par mojhe sach may khouf aata hay k marna hum sab nay hay hamary marnay pay bhi maybe kisi k yahi kalmaat hoon k khas kum jahan pak..acha hoa k mar gaya/gaey <_< Touba karni chaheay har waqt...pop wo tu es waqt apnay emaloon ka jawab day raha hoga aur pata nahi ho sakta hay k uski koi naiki kaam aagaey ho ya ??/ Allah he janay hum kisi ko naik ya bad kehnay wallay koun hein hum kyun kisi ki boraey kar k apnay gunnah barha rahay hein... aap ye tu mantay he ho na k qurran may likha hay k yahood,nasara,even sitara parast may say bhi kuch janat may jain gay meri koi bhi baat bori lagay tu maaf kijeay ga aur haan kaheen bhi main galat hoon tu aap sab say islaah ki zaroorat hay k mera Ilum aap say ziyada nahi bus ye ek soch hay aur kuch nahi jo mojhay laga manay keh deya :( Edited April 12, 2005 by sanum Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aaman_Eman 0 Posted April 13, 2005 Sanum jahan tak Gov kee baat hai tou i m agree with Lala and rukh but sanum really aap kai reply nai buht kuch sochnay per majboor ker deya..aap ke tarah main be ye baat admit karoon gee k meray paas be en loogon ke tarah buht sara knowledge tou nahi hai..liken aap nai buht had tak theek kaha hai.. ab kesi nonmuslim k liyee os kai mernay kai baad esi baat or hamari just insaani hamderdi theek hai ya nahi?? reply ka inatzaar rahay ga. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rukh 25 Posted April 13, 2005 Rukh>>>mashallah say manay aap say bohat sekha hay aur sekh rahi hoon par ek baat pay hamesha thori behas ho jati hay agarchay mera Ilam aap say bark k nahi par jo mohje meri aqal k lehaz say acha nahi laga wo yahan likh rahi hoon agay aap batain k main kis had tak sahi hoon jazal allah sanum kay app nay mujh naqis ul ilm or gunahgar insan ko is qabil samjha ...main app ki ustad kahan ho saktee hoon ustad to Kamil hota hay ..or main to abhi bilkul naqis hoon.. app bilkul apnay dil main anay walay saray ashkal o akhitlaf ko bayan kerain ..main app ki jaise he aam insan hoon ..mujh say kahen ghalte ho sakte hay mera ilm adhora hay ! bulkay main yeh bhi kehte hoon akser mere batt ko app log apni tasslai kay ley mazeed tasdeeq zaroor kerain ... meray bohat say ammal ghalat bhi ho saktay hain ... mujhay khud islah ki zaroorat hay app log koi ammal aisa dekho jis per lagay kay sahe ya nahi to mujhay zaroor batain ...! k ek dafa HAzrat AYesha (RA) ne kisi morday ko bora bhala kaha tu App (SAW) ne kaha k osay bora na kaho k woh apnay anjaam ko pohanch choka hay... Ahadees ko bayan kernay perhnay or samjhnay main hameesha yeh khiyal rakhain kay ahadees ko us kay pooray pas manzer or jis moqa per kahee gayee or kis kay ley kahee gayee aya kisi khas shaks kay sath mansoob thee ya tamam afrad kay ley in sub batoon ko samnay rakh ker hum hadees kay exact point ko samjh saktay hain werna yeh bat hum sub jantay hain kay non muslims firqay hamare hee hadees ko daleel bana ker apna batil sahe sabit kernay ki koshish kertay hain is lay kay woh hadees kay opper saya lfaz utha laytay hain jaisai Dehriya mazhab walay quran ki ayat or namaz hay zikker kernay ka ko dallel bana ker kehtay sirf tasbeeh kerna namaz hay ab yeh ayat ka maqsad pas-e-manzar mazmon ki hay is ko chupa diya in logoon nay ! ab is bat ko samjh lainai k bad hum atay hain app ki bayan kerda hadees ki teraf mere zayhan main yeh hadees halke see mojood hay per mukmal yad nahi ..lakin app batain kay kia jis MURDAY ko bura kaha woh muslman tha ya kafir ? or us murday ko kin wajohat per bura kaha hazrat ayesha nay ! jub yeh batain hum mukamal hasil hoon gee tub hee hum is per bat ker saktay hain ...werna is ko dallel banana sahee nahi ho ga kay mumkin hay hadees ka maqsad kuch or ho or hum us say ko kisi or bat ke teraf lay jainn ! deen main ahtyat ki bohat zaroorat hay ! yahi fakar tu hamain lay doba hay k hum mosalmaan hein aur janat hamaray liye he hay...muslamaan honay konsa hamara apna kamal hay ye tu us parwadgar ka karoroon karoroon ehsaan hay k us nay hamain es paak mazhab k liye chona.... yaad hoga farishtoon nay jab Allah khalaqay Qainaat insaan ko takhleek kar rahay thay tu onhon nay pocha tha k kiya hum aur jin kafi nahi aap ki riyazat aur Ibadqat k liye. Jannat waqytan sirf muslmanoo kay hee ley hay ..jannat main muslman kay ilawa koi nahi ja sakta yahan tuk kay koi is haal main mera kay us kay dil main Rayee kay dana baraber bhi iman tha to woh apnay gunahoon ki saza panay kay bad jannat main bhej doya jayee ga lakin is ka mutlub yeh nahi hum AMMAL kerna he chor dain kay jannat main to jaain gay ... kion kay muslman gharanay main paida hona app ko MUSLMAN nahi kerta bulkay IMAN nam hay mannay ka yanee app ka AMMAL iman kay mutabiq ho quran main bar bar ata hay Aminoo wa amiloo saliyhat ....Iman or ammal-e-salih ka sath sath hona ! yahan app bilkul sahee hain ! zingadi aur mout denay walla wo Allah pak hay phir hum ye kasay kisi ki zindagi pe comments kar saktay hein k choti ya barri meray piyaray behan bhiyoon hum koun hotay hein kisi ko bora bhala kehnay wallay k falan bohat naik hay falan bohat baad bay shak ALLAH hee zindge or maut dainay wala hay lakin yahan app ki bat kay hum kaisai kisi ki zindgee per comments day saktay hain kuch adhoree hay .. .... koi shakhs ALLAH or us kay RASOOL say mukir hoon ..Islam main tahreef yani tabdeele keray .....to ALLAH quran main fermtay hain us ko dunya or akhrat maind ono main ruswa karain gay firoon ko ajj tuk kion bura bahala kha jata hay ?.. woh mer giya to ab hum kuch na kahain gay ussay ?? ..quran main to us ka wayqa us kay mernay kay bad hee aya na ?? quran main to us ko jahunmee kafir mushrik sub kaha ALLAH nay .... to kia app jub woh sorah perhain gee to woh alfaz nahi ada kerain ge jis main Firoob ko bura kaha kay woh to mer giya hum kion us ko kuch kahain ? mere behan app do bataoon ko mix ker rahee hain ..jub hum kisi KAFIR ki muzamat kertay hain to asal main us kay KUFFER ki muzamat kertay hain us kay Badan ya jissam say nahi nafrat kertay ager yehe Kuffer woh insan chor day or muslman ho jayee to hum us ki TAREEF kerain gay hamree nafrat us say is ley hay kay humaray ALLAH nay us say nafrat ki..ior humaree muhabat us say ise ley hay kay hamaray ALLAH nay us say muhabat ki aik ayat ya hades ka mafoohm hay momin to woh hay jo dsote keray to ALLAH k ley dushmanee keray to ALLAH k ley mafhome ayat Allah fermatay hain jo mere naik bandoob ko tang keray ga main us say jang keroon ga to kia hum un logon say nafrat na kerain jo ALLAH or us kay ahkamat ko badlatay hain ?? Allah app key ley un logon say janag ka aylan kertay hain or app ALLAH kay ley un say nafrat nahi kerain gay ?? k kabhi kabhi hamari sari zindagi k reyazatain/ebadatain raigan jati hein aur kabhi ek naki Allah ko itni pasand aati hay k wo hamaray gonahoon pay bhari par jati hay aur wo MAlik maaf kar deya hay zindgee ki rayztain jo deen ki rah main hoon kabhi raygaan nahi jateenn.. aik aam insan ka bhi kam ker do to woh app ki izzat kerta hay ..to ALLAH qadr-e-mutlaq jis ka fazal bay ntyha hay woh hamree ibadtoon ot naikoon ko qabool kion na fermain gay ... haan yeh alag bat hay kay humare rayztain ager dikhaway key ley thee to un ka koi faida nahi lakin ager ALLAH kay ley theen to ALLAH muslman kay amal zaya nahi kertay yeh ALLAH khud fermatay hain quran main bayshak ALLAH ghfoor hay hamre koi aik naykee ki berkat say woh humain gunahoon say door ker daytay hain or un gunahoon ko bhi naikoon main badal daytay hain yaad hoga aap sab ko wo kissa k ek bohat bori Aurat thi par us ne ek piyasay kotay ko pani pillaya aur Allah nay osay maaf kar deya uska har gunnah yahan app aik or hadees la rahee hain jo bukhare shreef main ayee hain lakin app is hadees ki tafseer nahi samjheen app ka kia khiyal hay kay us awarat nay sirf paysay kuttay ko pani pilaya or phir woh gunahoon main rahee lakin jub maree to is ammal ki wajha say baksh diya gya is per koi Aitraz ker sakta hay kay ALLAH ro haleem or burdbar hain apnay faislon main or yeh to aik jazbati badshah ka faisla lagta hay jo aik achay ammal per saray burray ammal chor day or ak burray ammal saray achal ammal zaya ker dain to yahan ULMA tafseer ya jawab toon deytay hain kay hadees ko mukhtasir bayan kia gya hay or maqsad-e-hadees yeh kay ki us awarat ka yeh ammal ALLAH nay qabool kia or us kay lay naikee kay rastay khol deye or is naike ki barkat say usa ko baqee zindgee iman walee hasil hoyee app dekhain hadees ka zahir kitna mukhtalif lag raha hay or tafsser main aaker kitnee mazeed batain pata chaleen? kay baz naikiyan is terha QABOOL hote hain k un ki barkat say phir humain saree zindgee naikion kee tafeeq he rehte hay or gunah nahi hotay ! esi tarha ek aur qissa hay k kisi jang may App SAW k paas ek sahabi ko ye keh k paish kiya gaya k usnay nahaq kisi ka khoon kar deya k usnay kalamaa perh liya tha jab App SAW nay us say pocha k tum nay us k bawajood esa kyun qatal kiya tu us nay kaha k Ya Rasool Allah SAW us nay mout k khouf say kalama perha tha tu aap SAW nay kaha k kyun tum nay uskay dil may kiya jhank k dekha tha k wo kafir hay ya musalmaan aik or hadees app paish kertee hain lakin yeh hadees to khud app ki bat kay mukhalif ja rahee hain is hadees main yeh bayan kia gya kay jub tuk woh kaffir tha us ko qatal ker saktay thay lakin jaisai us nay kalma perh liya to ab is IMAN ki badolat us ka qatal kerna mana ker diya gaya... yanee kafffir jub tuk kaffir hay us say jahad ho ga or jub woh muslman hoa to ab us say jahab ya qatal nahi ! ab yeh ALLAH or us ka mamla hay k woh suchay dil say iman laya ya jhootay dil say shreyat Zahir per hukam lagatee hay ! tareekhay Islam esay kai qisoon say barhi pari hay phir bhi aap esa kehtay hojab k hamara muzhab tu hamain Insaniyat ka dars deta hay kiya yahi insaniyat hay aisai qisoon say bhree hay jis main islam kay munisf or muatdail or berhaq honay ka saboot hay ...lakin qisoon ka maqsad samjhna zaroore hay app baghir ilm kay un ko samjh ker koi fasila nahi ker saktay Islam insaniyat ka dars dayta hay bilkul sahee kaha or yeh insaniyat ka hee taqaza hay kay insano ko sher or fitna say bachaye jayee on ko nuqsan say bachaye jayee .. kia islam main JAHAD ka hukam insaniyat kay khilaf hay ?/ is main bhi to qatal hoota hay ...kafiroon ki Awrtain or mard muslmano ko ghulam ki soorat main miltay hain yeh to aik sher ka khatma hay ..kuffer ko phylanay say rokna takay insan is ka shikar na hoo ghalt rastoon ko mitana hay takay hiidyat ka rasta roshan ho jub app ghalat ko ghalat nahi kahain to sahe ki nishan dahe kaisai kerain gay?? jub do cheezain mauqabol hoon to aik cheez ki naffi ker kay dosree chez kay sahee hona ka pata chalta hay or app aisa na kerain to yeh insniyat per zulm hay k app nay un ko bachaya nahi ! 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rukh 25 Posted April 13, 2005 aur tu aur Handaa yaad hogi aap ko jis nay App SAW k sab say piyaray chacha Hazrat Hamza k janazay ek shaheed k janazay k sath kiya salook kiya aaj bhi wo sab yaad kar k rouh kanp jati hay par Mosalmanon nay balkay Khoud app SAW nay osay kuch na kaha koi badla na liya na he galli galoch ki app yahan ik or waqya paish ker rahee hain lakin wohe bat ADHOORE bat paish kee Hinda bad main MUSLMAN ho gayee thee or is kay IMAN alnay ki wajha say us ko mauff kia gya tha kion kay QURAN main ALLAH fermtay hain jo islam lay aya to islam lanay say pehlay kay tamam gunaah khatum ker deye jatay hain .. bat wohee hay aiytbar IMAN ka hay jo muslman hoa us kay AHKAM alag hain or jo KAFIR hay us kay ahkam alag hain muslman or kaffir aik araber nahi ho saktay ..kuffer andhera hay ilsam roshne hay kia dono aik jaysay hain? Astagfirullah aaj k dour may esa hota tu hum tu osay waheen khatam kar detay osay tu osay balkay uska saray khandaan ka wo hashir karta k bus app yeh bat sub kay ley nahi keh saktee woh log jo islam ko badnam kertay hain or namnayhad muslman hai darasal kafiron kay agent hain wohee aise herkatain kertay hain jis say islam per koi herf ayee jo muslman Deen kay ahkamat say waqif hain woh kissi muslman ko us kay KUFFER main keye gaye ammal per koi saza nahi day saktay kay ALLAH nay us kay gunah islam lanay ki wajha say mauff keye lakin ager muslman honay kay bad bho us nay koi nahaq qatal kia to is per ISLAM saza ka hukam dayte hay kay us ko badlay main jan say mara jaye ya maqtoon kay wurasa paiysoon per razee hoon to owh dee jayee or aik sayhat mand masheray main aysai ASOOL zaror hain takay log ibrat pakrain or in jaraim say door rahain Islam aik mazbot deen hain us main koi kamzore nahi kay jo shaks jo marzee kerta rahay ur us ko kuch na kaho ...ho sakta hay ALLAH us ko kisi ammal per mauff kerday woh to ALLAH oor us ka mamla hay humain jo ahkamat deye gaye humain waisai he ammal kerna hay ek aur kisa ek khatoon jo k aap SAW pay roz kora dala karteein thi jab ek roz na dala tu aap SAW hayraan hoay k esa kiya hogayamaloom honay pay k wp bemaar hay app SAW khoud uski ayadat ko gaey tub onhoon nay ye kaha k wo tu kafir hay bori hay mornay do osay acha hay ek fitna kum hoga wagera wagera jesa aap keh rahay ho phir us Awarat ki aydat kernay ka maqsad koi us say muhabat ya us kay kafiir honay per shabashi nahi thee bulkay us ko deen ki teraf bulana tha .. or islam ahsan ka hukam kerta hay .... apni ZAAT ki wajha say app kisi ko qatal nahi ker saktay ya bura nahi saktay Harzat Ali rzi Allah tala anhu ka waqya kay kay aik kaffir ko woh qatal kernay lagay to us nay un kay moon per thook diya to hazrat Ali razi Allah tala anhu nay chor diya kay shaid ab ager main tumhain qatal kerta to yeh mera gussa hota is per ! isee ley islam kehta hay kay pehlay kaffir ko islam paish kero ..ager woh man jaye to chor do ..ager mana keray to qatal ker do par mojhe sach may khouf aata hay k marna hum sab nay hay hamary marnay pay bhi maybe kisi k yahi kalmaat hoon k khas kum jahan pak..acha hoa k mar gaya/gaey bilkul sahe kaha apnai moot say derna chaeye or apni zindge main aisa ammal kerain jo bad main sadqa-e-jariya banain .... yeh to bilkul alag masla hay ...app jis bat per ikhtilaf ker rahee hain woh is say alag hay ... hum meray walay ko bura is ley keh rahay hain kay woh kaffir tha ..us nay apnee sare zindgee ALLAH or us kay ahkmat ki nafermanee main na sirf guzarr bulkay logoon ko us teraf bulaya ....logon ko ghalat rasta dikhaya yanee woh sertapa SHER tha is dunya main ....to kia hum shuker ADA na kerain ki aik sher khatum hoa ?? app ko maloom hain yeh POP kia kertay hain ?kabhi in kay mazhab kay barain maina pp sunain to ap ko ahsas ho kay hamray ANBIYA per kitna bara jhoot boltay hain HARZAT ISA alyhi salam ka nam lay ker kia kia tamshay kertay hain or logon ko bulatay hain aik muslman apnai Anbia kay dushmanoo say nafrat nahi keray ga to kia keray ga ?? hamray maa baap ko koi bura kahay to hum uski shkal dekhna pasand na kero to kia hmaray dil main apnay anbia kay ley itnee bhi muhabat nahi kay un kay dushmano ko alal aylan bura kahain ...talay logon ko ilm ho kay ghalat kia hay or sahee kia ? Touba karni chaheay har waqt...pop wo tu es waqt apnay emaloon ka jawab day raha hoga aur pata nahi ho sakta hay k uski koi naiki kaam aagaey ho ya ??/Allah he janay bilkul toba kernee chaye e ..pop ko ALLAH hee pochay ga ..hum nay hisab nahi liyna l akin us ki koi NAIKI kam ajayee ?? mere beyhan kaffir ki koi naiki nahi hotee Sora Muhamad ki pehlee ayat main ALLAH irshad fermtay hain jis ka mafhoom hay or jo log Munkir hoyee ALLAH un ki AMMAL KHO daytay hain kaffir ager koi acha kam keray to ALLAH us ka badla bus duniya main day daytay hain per AKHRAT main sirf unhii NAIkioon KA YTBAR HAY..JO IMAN ki halat main kee gayee hio or ALLAH jo fermatay hain wohe hota hay yeh nahi ho sakta ALLAH nay quran main jo fermaya ho or woh na ho ALLAH fermatay hain mera Wada berhaq hai .. ALLAH ki do siffat hain Rehman or Raheem Rehman muslman kaffir dono kay ley hay dunya main jo kaffir hay us ko bhi ALAH daitay hain or muslman ko Raheem sifft sairf muslmano kay ley hai AKHRAT main kay un ko janat main bhejna jaye ga KAFFIR kay sirf jahum he hay or yeh quran maina ik bar nahi bar bar aya hay aap ye tu mantay he ho na k qurran may likha hay k yahood,nasara,even sitara parast may say bhi kuch janat may jain gay nahi mere bayhan QURAN main jin yahoo do nasara ka aya hay kay woh sahe rastay per thay yeh woh yahood or nasara thay jub MUHAMMAD SALALL ALAHOA YLHI WASLAM maboos nahi hoye thay dekhain her nabi ki ummat ka sahe rasta yeh hay k woh apnay waqat kay nabi ki atatt keray .. to jub harzat moos or isa layhi slam thay us waqt un ki attat kerna hee wajib thaa to un kay ley yhee ammal jaanat ka bais h ho ga lakin jub NABI PAAK SLAL ALLHO ALYHIWasalam tashref layee to ab peechay kay tamam anbia kay sheryat khatum ho gayee ab musalman or hidyat kay rasta wohe hay ji NABI paal Salal alaho aylhi wasalm nay batya use per chalna wajib hay ab jo yahood or nasara hain woh hidyat kay rastay per bilkul nahi hain .. NABI nay he to fermaya hay kay ab hazrat moosa Alyhi salam bhi hotay to woh mere he atat kertay to yeh logg to apne marzian ker rahay hain yeh to hazrat ISAA ALYHAI slam per ager iman rakhtay to in ki kitaboon mainyeh mojood tha kay NABI PAKK SLAL LLAHO AYHI WASALAM aain ga or yeh un ki tsdqqe krain gay inho nay to sub badal diya kon say hidyta ka rasta hay yeh? meri koi bhi baat bori lagay tu maaf kijeay ga aur haan kaheen bhi main galat hoon tu aap sab say islaah ki zaroorat hay k mera Ilum aap say ziyada nahi bus ye ek soch hay aur kuch nahi jo mojhay laga manay keh deya KIAI BAT KERTE HAIN SANUM BURE KION LAGE GEE musalman ka to kam he Deen per ghor fikker kerna hay hamre zinadge ka maqsad he yhee hay p.s> or aj main ager cy per hoon to ap ki wajha say hoon kay app is ki talab rakhtee hain werna dosray thread mainn ab main koi participation nahi kertee app nay note kia ho ga or ab to main sirf islma hee per guftgu main hissa loon gee .. kay dosray tafreehe thread main na mahrim say bhi bat cheet bila uzzar ho jate hay or mere aik achee member nay is teraf tawaj dilye kay yeh sahee nahi .. app jo ilm hasil ker rahe hain dosray yeh samjh saktay hain k yeh cheez jaiz hay tubhee app bawjood ilm k is main mubtla hain or ise tera unhi nay chatting per bhi muhhay fatwa la ker diya ALLAH un ko jazay_e_khair ata kerai .. ...INSHALLAH ab koshish rahay gee kay koi aisa amal na ho jo shreyat kay khilaf ho or mere waselay say agay jayee ! app say duaaon ki derkhuast hay ... agercha yeh bat out of topic hay lakin app nay likha kay ap mere replies zaror perhte hain to main app ko is ley batya kay kaheen mere wajha say app kisi ghalat ammal ko mujh per aytmad ki wajha say jaaiiz na samjh lain ! 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rukh 25 Posted April 13, 2005 sanum & amman Reply bohat lamba hay mainy aik aik line kia tafssel say batanay ki kohish kee hay plz request hay ppora perheye ga or koi ghalat lagay to islah fermaye ga ALLAH hum sub ko ilm o amal ki tofeeq day ameen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sanum 0 Posted April 14, 2005 (edited) rukh>>>thanx alot k aap nay itnay ghor say meri post dekhi aur osay na sirf parha balkay us pay comments bhi deay jin pay main ek baar phir yahi kahoon gi k meri piyari behan manay ye kab kaha k kafroon ko bora na kaho manay sirf ye kaha k kisi morday ko bora nahi kehna chaheay k wo apnay anjaam ko pohanch choka ab ye baat k kafir koun hota hay wo jo Allah say inkar karay rad karay tu ye tu ahlay kitaab hein balkay hamaray deen nay in say muslim males ko un say shadi tak ki iajzat di hay.. ye aur baat k inlogoon nay apna deen bhola deya hay aur kuch radobadal bhi kar di hay aur shirk bhi kartay hein ...ab onhain kiya kafir kehna jaiz hay jab k ye Ahlay kitab hein agar wo shirk kartay hein tu kiya hum muslims esa nahi kartay 100% kartay hein...biddat firqaa paristi ,...mazaroon par charhaao na janay kiya kiya....aur tu aur zara wo song tu sonno jo k sarasar kofriya kalmaat pay hay jo sadiyoon say gaya ja raha hay jesay koi baan karnay walla nahi lal meri pat jis ki ek line hay mawaan no piraaa bachray dendaaa ay behnaaaa no weer jholay lalan...Astigfirulla,naozbillah aur hamri qawaliyaan wo bhi saaz,dhool bajay k sat..subhanallah kiya kehnay jab k Quran may bhi jin pay peghmbbar /nabi/anmiya aaey hidayat k liye onhain kisi khas naam say mothatib kiya gaya hay na k kafir keh k jesay yahood,nasara,aad ...aur App salalaho Alahiwasalum say se pehle ya nabowat say pehle ye sab kafir kehlatay thay kyun ????es liye k onhoon nay boton ki poja shro kar di thi jab k un k pass toraait,injeel thein phir bhi wo gumrah ho chokay thay... main ab bhi yahi kahoon gi k meri behan Allah jo khoud ko Quran k pehle hi page pe farmatay hein Allah Rubul Alameenjab k chahtay tu Rabul muslameen bhi keh saktay thay phir main kesay kisi say nafrat kar sakti hoon es kaainat say ....hamara mazhab insaniyat ka mazhab hay tabhi App SAW ko rehmatul Alameen kaha gaya hay yani tamam kaainat k liye rehmat....yaad rahay k donno Allah aur us k rasool khoud ko Allamin say mokhatib karaty hein jis may he cheez shamil hay chahey wo charind hoon parind hoon ya insaan...ab insaan may sab shamilhein khawa wo muslim ho ha non muslim...ab ek aur wakiya k ek dafa Hazrat Ibaraheem Aw k haan koi mehmaan aaya jab dastarkhawan pay aap nay Allah ka naam lay k khana shora aur us shaks nay esay he start kar deya jab app Aw nay pocha tu us nay bataya k wo kafir hay aap AW nay osay osi waqt khanay say otha deya...tabhi Allah nay onhain mokhatib kiya k Ibraheem main osay abtak sari zindagi ka her waqt ka rizk deta hoon yejantay bhi k wo mera inkari hay aur tum osay ek waqt ka khana na khila sakay.... Main ye nahi kehti k mojhe yahood ya kisi esaaey say hamdardi ya lagao hay banisbat kisi muslim k laykin Allah farmatay hein k tum onhain sahi deen ki dawat do agr wo qabool karain tu sahi warna tum zor ya zabardasti na karo...na he talwar k zor par onhain apnay mazhab ki janab bolao balkay achay say aur sahi say dawat go deenay Islam ki sahaba ki misal lay loo k yaad hoga k Hayood onhain chiraaya kartay thay k hamaray kitab may Hazrat Yousaf AW ka qissa bhi hay waghera waghera laykin kisi nay on say mokabla na kiya aur deen pay laraey nahi ki phir khoud Allah nay wo sorat quran me shamil ki... Muslims nay balke khoud App SAW nay khoud say kisi kafir pay talwar na othaey jab halaat bohat moshkil hogaey yahan tak k aap SAW ki jaan tak mehfooz nahi thi tu aap SAW nay khamoshi say Mecca chor deayakisi ko kuch na kaha even fatahay mecca k baad bhi kisi kafir ko kuch na kaha aur aap SAW k esi hosnay salook ki wajha say kafi log muslims ho gaey.. jab k hijratay macca k waqt app SAW k pass unhi kafroon ki amanatain bhi theen aap SAW tu esa nahi kehtay thay k jao jao maro k tum muslim nahi ho aur mojhe tum say sakht nufrat hay ... deen Islam ki taraf log kiyun aaey app SAW k achay salook ki wajha say...sadgi,inksari,mohabbat,bhai chara ye sab factor thay jin k wajha say log muslim hoay...ab ek aur waqea kehna chahoon gi k yaad hoga ek aurat mecca chor k jaa rahi thi k yahan ek jadogar hay jo sab ko apna bana layta hay itefaq say uski usi waqt App SAW say molakat hoey aap SAW nay us ki madad ki aur App SAW k achay salook ki wajha say wo muslim hogaey... oper tum nay borhi bimar ka qissay ka kaha tu chanda wo bhi tu esi husnay salook ki wajha say muslim hoey bakool aap k agar App saw na jatay ye soch k choro kafir hay marnay do fitna khatum hoga agar aap esa sochtay tu kiya wo muslim hoti hargiz nahi balkay sehatmand hoo k phir yahi kaam karti yani kora phakna aap k jnay aur hosnay salook ki wajha say wo muslim hoey us k baad he osay pata chala hoga k Ilsam kiya hay aur uskay arkaan kiya hein..wo tu kisi Allah ko nahi jantu thi na uski rehmaton say waqif thi osay ye sab pata chala aap SAW k hosnay salook say k jab ye itna naik aur acha insaan hay tu uska parwardigar kiya oga wo tu kaey gunna acha hoga aur uska muzhab bhi... aap k baki k sab comments ka bhi main inshallah jald jawab doon gi abhi sirf ye clear ho jaey k deen Islam hay kiya sirf Ibadat aur non muslim say nafrat...kiya ye kafir kehlanay k haqdar hein agar haan tu kyun.. Islam ki history khoul k dekh lo hamain yani muslims ko zawal aaya tu kisi kafir ya yahood k taraf say nahi balkay khoud apnay he logon say hum nay khoud Islam ko badnaam kiya kisi aur nay nahi ..salabi jangain dekh lo,phir mughal dekh lo Akbar nay kiya kiya Islam k sath khoud ko Zilay elahi kehlwata thay Firoon ka dosra part... jab k badshahat ka kaheen bhi koi concept nahi Islam may...esi nay Hindous say shadi ki rasum nikali jab k esa sochna bhi gunnah hay... Hazrat Imam Hussain RA ko kisi kafir nay shaheed nahi kiya na ye sanhaey qablaa kisi kafir ki wajha say hoa wo khoud hamaray he muzhab k logon ki wajha say... phir ek aur misal deti hoon Sindh ko babul Islam kaha jata hay wahan Islam Muhammad bin Qasim ki wajha say aaya kyun aaya???uskay achay salook ki wajjha say muslims ki wajha say k tab unmain koi cast system nahi tha na koi gulaam tha na koi aakaaaaa agar koi akaaaa tha tu wo sir Allah ki pak zaat thi.. aap nay jo firoon ki misal de tu meri jaan wo tu khoud ko khouda manta tha uska tu koi deen tha he nahi...kehta tha k mango tu mujh say mango...usay kai dafa sahi deen samjhaya gaya par wo manay he nahi ... firoon,nimrood,yamaan,karoon ye sab khoud ko khouda kehlatay thay aur samajhtay thay kisi mazhab say inka koi taluq he nahi tha Ek baat batao kiya hum nay kabhi koushish ki aaj k non muslims ko apnay deen ki nahi naaaaaaaa balkay olta hum aur hamari government unko manti hay...media may ye tu hamray her law may inka farman...naozbillah mano jesay zameen k khouda yahi hoon...agar ye boray hein qablay nafrat tu hum unka deya kyun khatay hein kyun ensay qarz laytay hein aur tu aur phir un qarzoon pay sood detay hein jo k haraam hay yani dohray gunnah...jab k raziq tu wo zaat hay wo allah hay jo hamain rizk deta hay...kyun hamari ngoz(Spell?) unkay pesoon pay chalti hein...kyun kisi naghani aafat may hum sab non muslims countries say fund laytay hein ...tab hamari nufrat kahan jati hay???????kyun hamaray scholars inhi k pesoon pay inhi say ilm aur skills sekhnay jatay hein..maray pass aur bohat say esay he kyunnnnnnnn hein..... baki k comments inshallah jald he quoting k sath doon gi abhi k liye itna he k pehle ye clear ho jaey...don't worry manay pori posts bohat ghor say parhi hay bus aap ki tarha quoting nahi ki....Irza bhi parhay gi k aap nay itni mehnat say hamaray liye ye tu likha hay ... 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rukh 25 Posted April 14, 2005 hmm Sanum i read ur reply ... ab hamra sara discussion out off topic chalay ga is kay ley mera khiyal hay new topic start ker laytay hain ... main wahan reply keroon gee ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sanum 0 Posted April 14, 2005 (edited) rukh>>> I think k esay yaheen continue kartay hein k es topic ka wasay tu koi maqsad nahi warna tum jahan chaho wahan new topic start kar do par mojhe batana zaroor k konsay section may post kiya haypar wahan hum ye sab previous discussion kesay continue rakh paen gay kasay es ka hawalaa dain gay Edited April 14, 2005 by sanum Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rukh 25 Posted April 14, 2005 ok theek hay hum yaheen continue ker daitay hain lakin main apnay reply dainay say pehlay app say chand sawalat keron gee 1...app ko jo ikhtilaf tha meray first reply per woh yeh tha kay mainy yeh kion kaha kahy SHUKER KHUDA KA KAY IK SHER khtum hoa right ?? or app ka kehna yeh hay k yeh sahee nahi hay ..kion kay jo mer giya khuah muslam ho ho kafir acha ho ya naik ...murtad ho munafiq sub jub mer gayee to un kay jaraim ko agercha kitna he sangen kion na ho us per malamat na ki jayee ?? yehe bat hay ya kuch or hay ? 2> yeh kay app nay apnay previous reply main jitne ahdees or waqyat paish keye jis bat ko sabit kernay kay ley un ahdees or waqyat ki tafseer maini ap ko batayee ..kia app nai un ko samjh liya ? mutlub yeh kjis cheez kay ley app nay woh paish keen un say woh bat sabit nahi ho rahee ... ager yeh batain claer ho jaain tub hee main agay reply ker sakoon gee kion k is reply main app nay bohat sare cheezon ko mix ker diya hay ..is ley ab mujhay samjh nahi araha app ko IKHTILAF asal main kis bat per tha?? waiting for ur reply ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ibadat 2 Posted April 14, 2005 Kaun sa gr8 pop john????????? is main afsoos ki kia baat hain ???? haan afsoos tu is baat par hain ke 82 saal jea lekin us ko Wahdaniyat ka bhi pata nahi chala ... taslees ka qail rehtey howey mar gaya... lanat hain or aap loog yahan afsoos kar rahey hain gr8 admi ke marne ka???? shirk kartaa raha purii zindagi....... shirk ki taleemat deta raha...... us ki tu aik 81 saal ki GIRL FRIEND bhi mili hian ..... lanat hian..... aap loogon ko afsooss akhri kis baat ka hian?????? nihayat fazool afsoos hain....... i m 100000% sure ka abhi wo PIT raha ho ga ..... Quran e Pak main vaziha toor par farma dia gaya hian ke "kafiroon or mushrikoon ke liye dozakh hain"" or aap loog pata nahi kis cheeez ka afsoos mana rhaey hain ??? itna tu har Musalman ko pata hian ....ke Kafiroon or SHirk waloon ke liye dozakh hain........agar aap logon ko nahi malom tu aap loogon ko Islami Taleemat hasil karne ki sakhat zaroorat hain ......... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sanum 0 Posted April 14, 2005 (edited) Rukh>>> main ek baar phir haan mojhay bhi lag raha k at a time kafi batain mixup hogain hein par ye sab esi baat say related hein... mojhe jis baat nay yahan participation pay majboor kiya wo yahi tha k meri agal k mota bik ye hamara muzhab insaniyat ka mazhab hay aur morday ka time pora hoa wo apnay emal ko pohncha ab Allah aur wo janay hamain kuch nahi kehna chaheay jesa k manay hadees bhi quote ki ab ye nahi pata k ye hadees sirf ek muslim pay hay ya sab mazahib pay... dosri baat ye hay k jo manay itnay waqiaat biyaan kiay k hamara mazhab hamain kisi say nafrat aur sath zeban ki ijazat nahi deta siwaey es k hath k badlay hath aur whatever par afzal amal maaf kar dena hay... dosri baat ye k hum inhain bora bhala kehnay se behtar hay k apnay emal sawarain....inki ataat say behter hay k Allah ki ataat karain ab tum batao k main kis had tak sahi hoon ...mojhe bhi reply ka intezar rahay ga ye bhi batana k Allah nay khoud ko rabul alameen aur nabi SAW ka rehmatulil Alameen kyun kaha hay banisbat rabul moslameen k .... Edited April 14, 2005 by sanum Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aaman_Eman 0 Posted April 14, 2005 main nai etna detailed reply likha or light chali gai : ( anyway.. Rukh>> aap nai MashAllah buht mehnat ke hai..main nai kal reply es liyee nahi kiya thaa kion k mujay Sanum k reply ka wait thaa..actuall question to on kai mind main thaa na.. pata hai Rukh meray or Sanum kai sochnay ka way same hai..aap nai feraoon ka ziker kiyaa..Baishak Allah nai kuch loogon ko rehti duniyaa tak ebrat ka nishaan bana daya hai.. jis tarah k Yazeed hai..hum nai kaferoon ko accha kehnay ko hergiz nahi kaha ..meray zahen main aanay wala question just ye thaa k mernay kai bad etnay buray words..baki sanum nai detail main explanation mangi hai..so main be wait ker rehi hon.. Ibadat>> aap ko kis nai kaha hai k hum ko Pop kai mernay ka afsoos hai..Pop ke jitnee zindagee thee wo mukamal hoi or wo apnay anjam ko punch gaya..hum muslims k liyee to accha howa k wo hamray khilaaf or islam kai khilaaf jo planning kerta thaa..wo chapter close howa..lakin.. aap ko ager Pop ke en batoon ka os ke zindagee main pata thaa tou aap nai tab kuch kion nahi likha?? es sai kamazkam hum kam ilm logoon kai knowledge main kuch ezafa he hojata..or hum os kai duniyaa sai jaldi chalay janay ke duaa he ker laitay...anyway mujay afsoos apnay media per hai..jis nai es ke buht zaida coverage de..or kesi baat per nahi. ager main nai kuch galat kaha hai..to os k liyee abi sai i M Sorry..aap sab ke tarah buht sara knowledge tou nahi hai..haan sekhnay ke justajoo buht hai..Allah rasta aasan kerday Aameen. sanum>> aap nai buht see batein buht acchi ke hain Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ibadat 2 Posted April 15, 2005 RUKH ....main ne shayed kabii itney khooley dil se kisi kis tareef nahi kaii lekin .agar main ye khaoo ke aap ke replies ne dil jeet liya mera tu galat na hoon ga........ main ne is se lambey lambey replies bhi [parhey hain lekin .......aap ke replies main buhat sincerity show hotii hain.... kahin bhi aap ke lehje main gussa ya jhunjalahat nahi aiiiiiii............. i really really appreciate itt.!!!!!!!!! Keep it up!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ibadat 2 Posted April 15, 2005 Mai ne itne lambey replies arse bad parhey hain wo bhi sirf ye dekh kar ke RUKH ne buhat mehnat se itttttttna lamba replay kara warna koi or hota tu shayed short main apni baat samjha kar chutii karta, so Rukh i really appreciate ur thz attitude, ab agar topic ki taraf aayee tu Sanum aap ne jo kaha wo theek hain lekin Rukh ki baat samjhne ki koshish kejiye, rukh ne ye nahi kaha ke non muslims ke sath accha salook na karo.....ye un ko dekhtey hi goli mar doo ,balkey rukh ka kehna ye hain ke afsoos na karooo 2 points ko apne mind main rakhye Rukh ki baat samjhtey howey....ke 1.Rukh ne specially POP ko bura kehne ke liye topic start nahi kia hian ye topic kisi or ka start kia howa hain ... 2. Rukh ne jo ye replay kia hian ye POP ko gr8 kehne ke hawaley se kia hain Dekhey Aik insaan tableegh karta raaha TASLEES (3 gods) ki, tu kia us ka mar janey par ALLAH ka shukar ada karna koi gunnah hain???? do u know. hamrey ghar ke pass aik Muslim murdit ho gaya hian ....Christian ho gaya hian or last infoo ke mutabik us ne 41 Muslims ko Christian kar diay hian..... ab agar wo marey ga ? tu main tu INSHALLAH ul AZIZ 2 rakat NAfil ada karoo gi.......tu kia main galat karoo gi?????? Mufti Shamazai... Yousuf Ludhyani wagera ki sahadat par kia esa koi afsoos dekhne par aya tha?????? nahi na??? ye afssooooos ki baat hain buhat ke aik Muslim country ka Flag sarnagoon raha , neecha raha.... just bcoz of d death of that bladdy pop........ geerat kiu nahi atiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii?????? Aik muslim country ke Ministar of Riligious Affairs , pop ke janazey main shirkat ke liye gaya....... ye theek kia us ne ?????????? DEEN hamary non Muslims ke sath ache ikhlaq ka hukum deta hain lekin is ka maltba ye nahi hain kahiin bhi ke un ke marne par afsoossss kaoro... haan afsoss karoo tu is baat par ke itnaaaa arsa us ka jeeena bekar gaya.........khali hath aya tha ...khali hath chala gaya...... biblem ain likha hian "Hazrat Nooh ki betiyaoon ne nasal chalane ke liye apne valid ko hi sharab pila kar us hi ke sath.................................." ab ye POP jo hian ye doosroon ko ye baat bata rahin hotey hain.. apne Tableeghi bayan mai...... aap ko lagta hian wo jaiz kar rahin hotey hain??? Rukh ne bilkooool theek kaha hian ye baat "aik muslman apnai Anbia kay dushmanoo say nafrat nahi keray ga to kia keray ga ?? hamray maa baap ko koi bura kahay to hum uski shkal dekhna pasand na kero to kia hmaray dil main apnay anbia kay ley itnee bhi muhabat nahi kay un kay dushmano ko alal aylan bura kahain ...talay logon ko ilm ho kay ghalat kia hay or sahee kia ?' ab bataiye aap ko Eteraz kis baat hain sister???? ke shukar kiu ada kia ja raha hain???? aap aik bar phir Rukh ke replies parhey aram se .. INSHALLAH ul Aziz aap ki baat samjh aa jain gain.... ---- Sanum Shirk ki kaii kismain hotii hian.......jis main sab se bara or nakabley mafii shirk hain Allah ke sath kisi ko tehrana......ab ye shirk chaiey jo bhi karey wo jahanum main jaye ga or ye clear cut faisla hain Allah Tala ka...... sab kuch Rukh ne apni posts main likh diay hain ab merey pass tu kehne ke liye kuch nahi hian....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aaman_Eman 0 Posted April 15, 2005 ibadat >>aap ka reply buht accha or meri expectations per pora utra hai..mujay 2 tarah k reaction ke umeed thee..ya tou aap mujay buht kharee kharee suna dein gein..ya phir fully ignore..theek kiya aap nai...anyway .. Sanum dear aap kai comments ka wait ker rehi hon.. rukh>> to kia hmaray dil main apnay anbia kay ley itnee bhi muhabat nahi kay un kay dushmano ko alal aylan bura kahain ...takay logon ko ilm ho kay ghalat kia hay or sahee kia ? Rukh muhabat hai..Allah sai or apnay anbia sai ..or os muhabat ka saboot he hamari justajoo hai..or aap sai ye sab pochnay ka maqsad be yehi thaa k apni galti kee nishandahee ho sakkay.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ibadat 2 Posted April 15, 2005 (edited) sorry agar kisi ko kuch bura lagey tu meri kisi baat main se tu...... Edited April 15, 2005 by Ibadat Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ibadat 2 Posted April 15, 2005 Ibadat>> aap ko kis nai kaha hai k hum ko Pop kai mernay ka afsoos hai..Pop ke jitnee zindagee thee wo mukamal hoi or wo apnay anjam ko punch gaya..hum muslims k liyee to accha howa k wo hamray khilaaf or islam kai khilaaf jo planning kerta thaa..wo chapter close howa..lakin.. aap ko ager Pop ke en batoon ka os ke zindagee main pata thaa tou aap nai tab kuch kion nahi likha?? es sai kamazkam hum kam ilm logoon kai knowledge main kuch ezafa he hojata..or hum os kai duniyaa sai jaldi chalay janay ke duaa he ker laitay...anyway mujay afsoos apnay media per hai..jis nai es ke buht zaida coverage de..or kesi baat per nahi. ager main nai kuch galat kaha hai..to os k liyee abi sai i M Sorry..aap sab ke tarah buht sara knowledge tou nahi hai..haan sekhnay ke justajoo buht hai..Allah rasta aasan kerday Aameen. Hmmm is par bhi bhala post karne ki koi baat thi sistar> har Muslim ko ye baat maloom honi cahiye .......ke ye pops kia kartey hain/......... mera is tarah dheeyan nahi gaya varna main zaroor post kartii is barey main..... i admit ke ye meri mistake hain...... aap mujhy maaf kar dejiye....... mujhy post karni cahieythey us ki life mian hi..... i m sorry!!!!!! ( pehley aap ki ye baatain parhii nahi thi ..hrz use kartii hon...is liye offline ho kar koi lambii baat likhii hoon tu likhtii hon note pad main or phir sirf kopy paste kartii hon .....) Sorry aap ko laga ke main ne aap ko ignore kia hian jabke esi koiiii baat nahi hain ....... main ne aap ka repaly just abhi hi dekha hain..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sanum 0 Posted April 16, 2005 Aslam O Alikum ji main hasbay wada apnay comments k sath quote ki sorat may main chahoon gi k jahan main gallat hoon wahan meri islaah zaroor ki jaey k main abhi sekhnay k amal main hoon aur main bohat ki kamzoor aur thora ilm rakhnay walli hoon..... jazal allah sanum kay app nay mujh naqis ul ilm or gunahgar insan ko is qabil samjha ...main app ki ustad kahan ho saktee hoon ustad to Kamil hota hay ..or main to abhi bilkul naqis hoon.. app bilkul apnay dil main anay walay saray ashkal o akhitlaf ko bayan kerain ..main app ki jaise he aam insan hoon ..mujh say kahen ghalte ho sakte hay mera ilm adhora hay ! Rukh>>> main ab bhi yahi kahoon gi k aap pata nahi meri kis neki ka ajar ho k main nay kafi ilm aap say sekha hay aur jis naik neyati aur mehnat say aap ye sab karti hein wo aur koi nahi kar raha maray liye aur ye nahi k ek dafa k baad aap osay chor dain balkay baar baar dair sawair jab jab moka milaay aur main kahoon tu aap phir say osi baat ki baghair narazgi k samjha deti hein aur es say ziyada aap ki niki aur ehsaan ki main kiya baat karoon k aap nay aaj tak jataya bhi es baat ko main thanx aur jazakallah k aur kiya keh sakti hoon mojhe nahi pata par aap ka jitna bhi ilm hay wo mujh say ziyada aur meray liye kafi hay Ahadees ko bayan kernay perhnay or samjhnay main hameesha yeh khiyal rakhain kay ahadees ko us kay pooray pas manzer or jis moqa per kahee gayee or kis kay ley kahee gayee aya kisi khas shaks kay sath mansoob thee ya tamam afrad kay ley in sub batoon ko samnay rakh ker hum hadees kay exact point ko samjh saktay hain ji bikul sahi kaha par badkismati say main ye sab kahan say sekhon aur jo books say main parhti hoon un may sirf raavi ka hawala hota hay aur uska background etc esa kuch nahi hota tabhi main sirf apni aqal say osay samajh pati hoon bus ya apni aqal k motabik jo k kum hay werna yeh bat hum sub jantay hain kay non muslims firqay hamare hee hadees ko daleel bana ker apna batil sahe sabit kernay ki koshish kertay hain is lay kay woh hadees kay opper saya lfaz utha laytay hain jaisai Dehriya mazhab walay quran ki ayat or namaz hay zikker kernay ka ji bilkul par oper aap nay kaha non muslims ka aur nechay misal di bhi tu ek muslim fikay ki jo k muslim hay tu nahi par kehlata muslim hay yahi meray kehnay ka maqsad tha k nonmuslims say hamaray apnay muslim firqay ziyada khatarnak ein k hamain dosray mazahib ka tu sahi say pata hay k wo dushman hain hamaray lakin unka sahi pata nahi chalta jab tak wo khoud say na batain k onka konsa firka hay jis MURDAY ko bura kaha woh muslman tha ya kafir ? sahi say nahi pata bus yahi likha tha... jub yeh batain hum mukamal hasil hoon gee tub hee hum is per bat ker saktay hain ...werna is ko dallel banana sahee nahi ho ga kay mumkin hay hadees ka maqsad kuch or ho or hum us say ko kisi or bat ke teraf lay jainn ! deen main ahtyat ki bohat zaroorat hay ji theek hay jesa aap kahain par rukh insaan jo bhi ho jis bhi mazhab say ho osay lout k jana tu ek he Allah k paas hay na aur phir apnay amaloon ka hisab dena hay theek hay k nahi yahan tuk kay koi is haal main mera kay us kay dil main Rayee kay dana baraber bhi iman tha to woh apnay gunahoon ki saza panay kay bad jannat main bhej doya jayee ga tu yahi khouf kisi non muslim k dil may bhi tu kabhi na kabhi aasakta hay na tum nay marnay k baad kiya hoga parhi hay usmay likha tha k qabrain bhi change ho jati hein yani boray insaan ki qabar may acha insan aasakta hay aur achay k bora k bazahir hamari nazar may wo achay tha laykin tha bora aur esi tarha bora tha kuch aur ... lakin yahan app ki bat kay hum kaisai kisi ki zindgee per comments day saktay hain kuch adhoree hay .. .... koi shakhs ALLAH or us kay RASOOL say mukir hoon ..Islam main tahreef yani tabdeele keray .....to ALLAH quran main fermtay hain us ko dunya or akhrat maind ono main ruswa karain gay actually us waqt jaldi jaldi jo samajh aaya likh deya aur mera yahi almiya hay k main apni baat sahi say nahi samjha sakti ... meray kehnay ka maqsad tha k jesa abhi Ibadat nay bhi kaha k uski age 83 something thi tu mera kehnay ka maqsad ye tha k hamari lumbhi ya choti zindagi sirf us pak zaat k hath hay hum ye nahi keh saktay k falan nay tu ufffff abay hayat pe thi k marta he nahi tha shoker hay k margaya omeed hay ab samajh aaya hoga ya hum kehtay hein k haw bechara itni choti umer may chala gaya abhi tu uskay marnay k din nahi thay meray khayal may ye hum Allah k kamoon may apni tarf say noqs nikal rahay hotay hein ek tarha say gunnah he kar rahay hotay hein jab k hamain esa nahi kehna chaheay... ab main kis had tak sahi hoon ye main aap say zaroor janna chahoon gi mere behan app do bataoon ko mix ker rahee hain ..jub hum kisi KAFIR ki muzamat kertay hain to asal main us kay KUFFER ki muzamat kertay hain us kay Badan ya jissam say nahi nafrat kertay omed hay k ab samajh aagaya hoga k main kiya kehna chah rahi thi momin to woh hay jo dsote keray to ALLAH k ley dushmanee keray to ALLAH k ley yahan main ye kehna chahoon gi ya yoon keh lain k pochna chahoon gi k kiya dushmani aur nafrat ek he cheez hay? Allah fermatay hain jo mere naik bandoob ko tang keray ga main us say jang keroon ga yahan Allah nay khoud ka kyun kaha k main karoon ga hamain hoqam kyun nahi deya esa karnay ko ???????? yahi maray kehnay ka maqsad tha k leave it to Allah hamain bus toba karni chaheay aur Allah say hidayat ki dua Allah app key ley un logon say janag ka aylan kertay hain or app ALLAH kay ley un say nafrat nahi kerain gay ?? Allah nay ye kaam apnay zimay liya hay mojhe eska huqum nahi deya abhhi itna he likh paey hoon bahi baad may yahan edit kar doon gi ya phir next post ka intezar karain .... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aaman_Eman 0 Posted April 16, 2005 Ibadat>>Sorry from my side too..if u mind my silly comments :( ..don't know why i wrote all these :( plzzzz forget it all.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
