Waqas 48 Posted March 8, 2010 Ali how u are comparing a person who pretends to be religious scholor with politicians? i didnt get the point you tried to deliver with these pix. i agree with Gul bcoz i heard Tahir and even saw his dance parties how can a scholar pretend to be like a king? how can a religious scholar walk over human beings? No offense but i wonder why people follow others so blindly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aliiqbalali55 0 Posted March 9, 2010 Salam, Ali how u are comparing a person who pretends to be religious scholar with politicians? i didnt get the point you tried to deliver with these pix.i agree with Gul bcoz i heard Tahir and even saw his dance parties smile.gif how can a scholar pretend to be like a king? how can a religious scholar walk over human beings? No offense but i wonder why people follow others so blindly. Waqas do u think that Islam has different connotation for religious and political people, don't be so stupid teachings of Islam does not change regarding the types of they are same for all in all times. That "sufi raqas" that you are calling dance party I m giving you its detail now it your work what you understand and perceive according to your mind it is up to you. The Sufi Raqs (dance) in light of Shariah .. The Sufi Raqs (dance) in light of Shariah There has been some controversy lurking around regarding legitimacy of the Sufi Raqs (dance) or Hadra as it is called in Arab world which is practiced by eminent Sufis and Mashaikh. People who carry deep Bughz (hatred) for Sufis are often seen spreading propaganda that Sufis are dancers and they have nothing to do with Shariah, but what they forget is that they have no proof whatsoever from Quran and Sunnah on “NAFI” of Raqs whereas we have overwhelming proofs which establish Raqs directly from hadith itself, even absence of Nafi is itself a proof of it being allowed and it cannot be declared haram until proven otherwise. Proof # 1 عن أنس قال: «كانت الحبشة يزفنون بين يدي رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلّم ويرقصون ويقولون: محمد عبد صالح ، فقال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلّم: ما يقولون؟ قالوا: يقولون: محمد عبد صالح Translation: It is narrated by Anas (R.A) that the Habashis were presenting their art in front of the Prophet (صلى الله عليه وسلم) and “THEY WERE DANCING (Yarqasun)” while saying: Muhammadun Abdun Salih (i.e. Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم the righteous slave). The Prophet (صلى الله عليه وسلم) asked: What are they saying? They said: Muhammadun Abdun Salih [Musnad Ahmed bin Hanbal, Volume No.3, Page no. 152] Sheikh Shu’ayb al Ar'anut said after this hadith: إسناده صحيح على شرط مسلم Translation: The Chain is “SAHIH” on the criteria of “(SAHIH) MUSLIM” [ibid 3/152] Note: This hadith explicitly uses the word "RAQS” which proves without any shadow of doubt that It was dancing, however the Anti-Sufi people cite the hadith of Bukhari which only mentions “PLAYING” Some people claim that this above hadith is only understood from hadith of Bukhari which mentions Abyssinians or Ethiopians "PLAYING WITH SPEARS" inside the Prophet's mosque. Now our reply to them is the same i.e. the hadith of Bukhari is understood from the hadith of Musnad Ahmed which is Sahih on criteria of Sahih Muslim, hence both playing and Raqs become allowed, If they are truthful then they should come with proof from hadith which mentions that Raqs is “EXCLUDED” from this. Therefore Alhamdolillah both ahadith go in favour of Sufis. Proof # 2 أتيت النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم وجعفر وزيد قال فقال لزيد أنت مولاي فحجل قال وقال لجعفر أنت أشبهت خلقي وخلقي قال فحجل وراء زيد قال وقال لي أنت مني وأنا منك قال فحجلت وراء جعفر Translation: Hadrat Ali (ra) said: I went to the Prophet (salallaho alaihi wasalam) with Jafar (RA) and Zayd (ra), The Prophet (saw) said to Zayd: You are my freedman (anta Mawlay), “AT THIS ZAYD BEGAN TO HOP ON ONE LEG (HAJALA) AROUND THE PROPHET” then the Prophet (saw) said to Jafar (ra): You resemble me in my creation and my manners, at this Jafar also began to hop behind Zayd, then the Prophet (saw) said to Ali (ra): You are from me and I am from you, at this he also started to hop behind Jafar. [Musnad Ahmed bin Hanbal 1:537 #857] Click Here for Scanned Page (85) This hadith proves from the acceptance of Prophet (Peace be upon him) and Amal of great Sahaba like Zayd (ra), Jafar (ra) and Mawla Ali (ra) that doing Raqs is fine. Imam al Hafidh al Bayhaqi (rah) in explanation of this hadith said: وفي هَذَا إنْ صَحَّ دلالةٌ على جوازِ الحَجْلِ، وهو أَنْ يَرْفَعَ رِجْلاً ويَقْفِزَ على الأُخْرَى مِنَ الفَرَحِ، فالرقصُ الَّذِي يكونُ عَلَى مِثَالِهِ يكونُ مِثْلَهُ في الجوازِ. والله أعلمُ Translation: In this (hadith) is “SAHIH PROOF” and "PERMISSIBILITY" of hopping (dancing) which includes “RISING UP OR JUMPING IN STATE OF JOY” and also that of doing “RAQS” being similar to it which is also allowed – And Allah knows the best [sunnan al Baihaqi al Kubra (15/333)] Note: There is one narrator of this hadith i.e. Hani bin Hani upon whom Salafis do Jirah, now here is Mufassar Tadil on him. Muhaditheen said: هانئ بن هانئ عن على رضى الله عنه. قال ابن المدينى: مجهول. وقال النسائي: ليس به بأس. وذكره ابن حبان في الثقات Translation: Hani bin Hani narrated from Ali (Radhi Allaho Anho). Ibn Mudayni said he is Majhool. Imam Nasai (rah) said: “THERE IS NO HARM IN HIM” and Ibn Hibban mentioned him in his “THIQAAT (Reliable narrators)” [Mizan ul Aitidal (7/71)] Note: Remember being Majhool in sight of some muhadith does not mean the narrator is weak, because all muhaditheen did not know about all rijal, so If Tadeel is done by other Muhaditheen and some call him Majhool then Tadeel will supercede. A) Imam Tirimdhi declared many ahadith from Hani bin Hani as “HASAN SAHIH” [sunnan Tirimdhi Volume No.5, Hadith #3798] B) Imam Ibn Majah (rah) narrated from him and did Sukoot [sunnan Ibn Majah, Muqadma, Hadith # 143] C) Imam Ibn Hibban mentioned him in his ”Kitab ul Thiqaat” (5/508) It is thus radiantly clear that this narration is Sahih, as is also stated by Salafi’s leading Muhadith Shaykh Ahmad Shaakir in his Tahqiq of Musnad Ahmad where he said: “Its chain is sound (إسناده صحيح)“ [Musnad Ahmad Volume 001, Page No. 537, Hadith Number 857, FN: 2] D) Imam al Ajli (rah) said: 1885 ـ هانىء ابن هانىء، كوفي، تابعي ثقة Translation: Hani bin Hani, Kufi “TABI AND THIQA” [Thiqat al Ajli Volume No.1, Page No. 454] E) Imam Ibn Hajr al Haythami (rah) said about ahadith having Hani bin Hani ورجال أحمد والبزار رجال الصحيح غير هانىء بن هانىء وهو ثقة Translation: The Rijaal of Ahmed and Bazaar are those of Sahih except Hani bin Hani who is “THIQA” [Majma az Zawaid (8/102)] Nasir ud-din Albani the Salafi authority declared ahadith from Hani bin Hani as “SAHIH” [sahih Sunnan Ibn Majah by Albani, (1/119) So the hadith is absolutely sahih and the Jirah Mubhim on this narrator is not given any worth. Proof from other scholars that Raqs is allowed Scholar # 1 Imam Jalal al-Din Suyuti (rah) was asked for a Question “a group of Sufis who had gathered for a session of dhikr,” and he replied: How can one condemn making dhikr while standing, or standing while making dhikr, when Allah Most High says, “. . . those who invoke Allah standing, sitting, and upon their sides” (Qur'an 3:191). And ‘A'isha (Allah be well pleased with her) said, “The Prophet (Peace Be Upon Him) used to invoke Allah at all of his times” [sahih Muslim, 1.282: 373]. And if dancing is added to this standing, it may not be condemned, as it is of the joy of spiritual vision and ecstasy, and the hadith exists [in many sources, such as [Musnad al-Imam Ahmad, 1.108, with a sound (hasan) chain of transmission] that Ja‘far ibn Abi Talib danced in front of the Prophet (Peace Be Upon Him) when the Prophet told him, “You resemble me in looks and in character,” dancing from the happiness he felt from being thus addressed.......and the Prophet (Peace Be Upon Him) did not condemn him for doing so, this being a basis for the legal acceptability of the Sufis dancing from the joys of the ecstasies they experience, Hence it is correct to stand and dance during gatherings of Dhikr and Sama according to a group of Majority of Scholars, among them being Shaykh ul-Islam Iz udin bin Abd al-Salaam. Reference: Imam Jalal ud din Suyuti (Rahimuhullah) in Al Hawi lil Fatawi, Volume No. 2, Page No. 234 Published by Maktaba al Asriyyah, Beirut, Lebanon. Click Here for Scanned Page (18) So the Sultan of Ulama i.e. Imam al Hafidh Izz bin Abdus Salaam (rah) allowed Raqs along with “GREAT SCHOLARS” as said by Imam Suyuti (rah) who was himself Mujaddad of his time. Scholar # 2 Imam Nawawi said: “Dancing is not unlawful, unless it is languid, like the movements of the effeminate. And it is permissible to speak and to sing poetry, unless it satirizes someone, is obscene, or alludes to a particular woman” [Minhaj at talibin wa `umdat al-muttaqin. Cairo 1338/1920. Reprint. Cairo: Mustafa al-Babi al-Halabi edition, Pae No. 152] Scholar # 3 Imam Ibn Hajar Al-Haytami also mentions “it is permissible to stand and dance during gatherings of Dhikr and audition according to a group of great scholars, among them being Shaykh al- Islam Ibn Abdus Salam.” (Fatawa al-hadithiyya, p. 298) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gul_E_HayaT 18 Posted March 9, 2010 who is zakir naik? ok ok i understand,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,u also listen, plz click on website Visit My Website now also listen it, Visit My Website I have Listn this , well i didnt knw abt it But majority of ppl says that Zakir Naik's point relates to Wahbees/Ahl-hadees As in this video he said -No Mazars -Muhammd is no more alive in his grave--Oh God 4giv me both shows he goes wiv wabees! Ok thn chk these 2 Scholars... m big time follower of both I go 2 listn this shyksh whn eva he visits here! i istn him his live talk Shaykh mohammad Al Yaqoubi Ghazi al Millat & Sheikh-ul-islam...Hashmi Miyan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gul_E_HayaT 18 Posted March 10, 2010 Ali how u are comparing a person who pretends to be religious scholor with politicians? i didnt get the point you tried to deliver with these pix. i agree with Gul bcoz i heard Tahir and even saw his dance parties how can a scholar pretend to be like a king? how can a religious scholar walk over human beings? No offense but i wonder why people follow others so blindly. i agree waqas u pickd him 4 his politics issue being a scholr + politics = Fame*+Money i cnt put it in right words more thn this! Salam, do u think that Islam has different connotation for religious and political people, don't be so stupid teachings of Islam does not change regarding the types of they are same for all in all times. That "sufi raqas" that you are calling dance party I m giving you its detail now it your work what you understand and perceive according to your mind it is up to you. The Sufi Raqs (dance) in light of Shariah .. The Sufi Raqs (dance) in light of Shariah There has been some controversy lurking around regarding legitimacy of the Sufi Raqs (dance) or Hadra as it is called in Arab world which is practiced by eminent Sufis and Mashaikh. People who carry deep Bughz (hatred) for Sufis are often seen spreading propaganda that Sufis are dancers and they have nothing to do with Shariah, but what they forget is that they have no proof whatsoever from Quran and Sunnah on “NAFI” of Raqs whereas we have overwhelming proofs which establish Raqs directly from hadith itself, even absence of Nafi is itself a proof of it being allowed and it cannot be declared haram until proven otherwise. Proof # 1 عن أنس قال: «كانت الحبشة يزفنون بين يدي رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلّم ويرقصون ويقولون: محمد عبد صالح ، فقال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلّم: ما يقولون؟ قالوا: يقولون: محمد عبد صالح Translation: It is narrated by Anas (R.A) that the Habashis were presenting their art in front of the Prophet (صلى الله عليه وسلم) and “THEY WERE DANCING (Yarqasun)” while saying: Muhammadun Abdun Salih (i.e. Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم the righteous slave). The Prophet (صلى الله عليه وسلم) asked: What are they saying? They said: Muhammadun Abdun Salih [Musnad Ahmed bin Hanbal, Volume No.3, Page no. 152] Sheikh Shu’ayb al Ar'anut said after this hadith: إسناده صحيح على شرط مسلم Translation: The Chain is “SAHIH” on the criteria of “(SAHIH) MUSLIM” [ibid 3/152] Note: This hadith explicitly uses the word "RAQS” which proves without any shadow of doubt that It was dancing, however the Anti-Sufi people cite the hadith of Bukhari which only mentions “PLAYING” Some people claim that this above hadith is only understood from hadith of Bukhari which mentions Abyssinians or Ethiopians "PLAYING WITH SPEARS" inside the Prophet's mosque. Now our reply to them is the same i.e. the hadith of Bukhari is understood from the hadith of Musnad Ahmed which is Sahih on criteria of Sahih Muslim, hence both playing and Raqs become allowed, If they are truthful then they should come with proof from hadith which mentions that Raqs is “EXCLUDED” from this. Therefore Alhamdolillah both ahadith go in favour ورجال أحمد والبزار رجال الصحيح غير هانىء بن هانىء وهو ثقة Translation: The Rijaal of Ahmed and Bazaar are those of Sahih except Hani bin Hani who is “THIQA” [Majma az Zawaid (8/102)] Nasir ud-din Albani the Salafi authority declared ahadith from Hani bin Hani as “SAHIH” [sahih Sunnan Ibn Majah by Albani, (1/119) So the hadith is absolutely sahih and the Jirah Mubhim on this narrator is not given any worth. Proof from other scholars that Raqs is allowed @ Waqas n Iqbal a lot of ppl especialy frm pk who has lack of knowledge calls it dance. this isnt dance,it calls "Sufi Hadra" wher u do zikker n feel spiritual calm....I myslf hav joined this hadra , did last yr u realy feel so closer 2 Allah! n u hav 2 do zikekr a lot 2 feel the touch n real calm bt in one hadra mehfil, evry one ws doing hadra n Dr tahir saab was bzy wiv sum non sense thats y ppl pickd him! Dr.Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri-Hadra Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mansoor 0 Posted March 10, 2010 some days ago my younger brother showed me a video where people actually were doing clear SAJDA in the foots of this Fitna Mr.Tahir Ul qadri. INSHALLAH once i get the link i will post hre it will remove all doubts iNSHALLAH. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Waqas 48 Posted March 10, 2010 mansoor not just you, everyone knows about him Lets c this with your open eyes but i know his blind followers will say sajda to him is also allowed. Allah ki panah Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mansoor 0 Posted March 10, 2010 yes waqas U r right Allah tallah Hamin blind aqeedat say bachaye ameen Ok here is that link, i dont know how to put you tube video in this page but you may paste it on browsers http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUI0aNEuEBU Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mansoor 0 Posted March 10, 2010 waqas when i was searching that video, people had defended this video saying " people are not doing sajda but kissing his feet " waooOo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Waqas 48 Posted March 10, 2010 i agree waqas u pickd him 4 his politics issuebeing a scholr + politics = Fame*+Money i cnt put it in right words more thn this! @ Waqas n Iqbal a lot of ppl especialy frm pk who has lack of knowledge calls it dance. this isnt dance,it calls "Sufi Hadra" wher u do zikker n feel spiritual calm....I myslf hav joined this hadra , did last yr u realy feel so closer 2 Allah! n u hav 2 do zikekr a lot 2 feel the touch n real calm bt in one hadra mehfil, evry one ws doing hadra n Dr tahir saab was bzy wiv sum non sense thats y ppl pickd him! Dr.Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri-Hadra Can you prove Sufi Hadra from Quran, sahabah or Hadith? Its just a form of Dance. Its Islam not Hinduism, where dancing is part of worship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SimpleRayyan 4 Posted March 10, 2010 Asalamualikum........ mai is topic mai kuj add krna chaho ga.. mai ne is topic ko read kiya hai or mai is khilaaf nai jana chaho ga or na hi is k saath....mjhy nai pta kiya ghalat hai or kiya sahi....but mai itna khna chaho ga k Tahir ul qadriii islaam k baray kafii knowladge rekhtay hai mai ne in k kkafiii khtaab sunay hai....or sab se bri baat ye k shayed ap sab log is se aashnaa ho k i thnk last 2 year ago...12 RABI-UL-AWAL.... ko jab Dr sahab minaray pakistan mai khtaab kr rhy thay or MUHAMMAD (S.A.W.W) pr apna beyaan de rahay thay to us or baar baar apni ungli aasman ki trf utha kr hmaray NABI(S.A.W.W) k baray bht achi baatay bta rhy thay to tabhi ALLAH pak ne apna aik jalwa un k jalsss mai sab ko dekhaya jo k sab ne daikha mai ne b daikha...k us din chand ki roshni bht taiz thi or chand k neechay MUHAMMAD likha hua aya tha maray pass abhi us ki pic to nai but mai jaldi ap k saamnay laoo ga...... or rahi baat is k ghalat hny ki...so jo loog isay sajda krtay hai...or is k haath paao choomtay hai jaisa k is clip mai daikha gya hai...ye mamnoo hai...kio k hmaray AAQA(S.A.W.W) ne jaatay huye fermaya k "Meri qabar ko apni sajda gaah na bna laina" yani k qabar ko or insaan ko sajdaa krna bht bra gunaah hai jab hmaray nabi ne hi apnay liye mamnooo fermaya hai to hm insaan is baat ko koi nai sochtay ... Or mai ap sab ko is wajah se ye sab kh rha ho...jo mera maksad hai rply add kr nay ka wo ye hai hai...hm musalmaano ko kiya ho gya hai hm kio aik doosray se ler rahay hai kio aik doosray k week ponit bta rahy hai....sab se pehlay hm apnay ander to daikhay k hmar mai kiya khaami hai kiya hm 110% islaam ki raah mai hai ....kiya hmay sab baato ka ilm hai...kiya hm momin mai se hai...kio k aik momin kabi kisi k aaib nai nikaalta ...so meri guzaarish hai k ap sab in baato ko choor day jo jaisa kr rha hai usay waisa rehnay day ....ye sab ALLAH ki hikmat hai aik....waisay bhi qeyamat tuk islam k 73 firkay anay hai jin mai se aik firkaa sahii raah per ho ga...or iski nishaandahi hmaray AAQA(S.A.W.W) ne ki hai...so agr hm 5 times namaz perhay...QURAAN pak ki taalimaat kray....RASOOLALLAH (S.A.W>W) ki sunnato per amal kry un k ahaadess ka ehtmam kry INSHALLAH hm sahi raah mai ho gay....or pls ap sab log b in sab baato se ignore kry kio k ho sakta hai islaam k baray wo baat pta nai jo hm kh chukay ho or jo hmaray liye baisey gunnah bnay...so pls logo samjh jao or ALLAH ki trf rajooo kro wohi sab kuj hai.....plsssssss live dis ye fitnaa wo fitnaaa ....WAQAS bhai meri aap se guzaarish hai k aisay topic ko ap allow hi naa kary posting k liyeee....thxxxxxxx Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gul_E_HayaT 18 Posted March 10, 2010 mansoor not just you, everyone knows about himLets c this with your open eyes but i know his blind followers will say sajda to him is also allowed. Allah ki panah the biggest sin, an unforgivable sin! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gul_E_HayaT 18 Posted March 10, 2010 (edited) Can you prove Sufi Hadra from Quran, sahabah or Hadith? Its just a form of Dance. Its Islam not Hinduism, where dancing is part of worship. This is just one form of remembering the Lord. "Fazkorouni azkorokum" (Surah 2: Verse 152) Proof for group dhikr from Qur'an and Hadeeth is contained in this book (as well as ahadeeth regarding it's general benefits): darulehsan(.)net/learningcentr e/Literature/dar_ul_ehsan_lite rature_Dhikr_i_Elahi(.)php If your still not satisfied, here's an extract of Imam Suyuti's (RA) book 'Al-Havi lil Fatawa' regarding vociferous dhikr: darulehsan(.)net/learningcentr e/Literature/dar_ul_ehsan_lite rature_Vociferous_Dhikr(.)php ALL Sunni scholars accept Sufism (tasawwuf) as a part of Islam, only Wahhabis and some Shiites and modernists oppose it... they are doing zikr , you can do many ways doing zikir, Allah swta said worship me while laying down standing and walking and you can do it this way did you know that the prophet was a sufi first, before islam. sufi'ism just teaches that its all about god. worshipping god because of our love for god. What do Imam ash-Shaf'ee (rahimahullaah)say about the SUFI'S? Baihaqee reports in Manaqib ash-Shaaf'ee, "If a man becomes a Sufi in the first part of the day, by the time Zhohr comes upon him you will find him crazy." Sunni Islam follow the Quran,Hadith and the ijma of Ulamas. Sunni Islam consists of IMAN(Tawheed or belief), ISLAM(Shariah laws and fiqh) and IHSAN(Cleansing of the heart or Tasawuf). Sufism is just one part of Sunni Islam and falls under IHSAN. Plse check with ur local sunni mosque for further clarification where possible. Allah knows best. Edited March 11, 2010 by Gul_E_HayaT Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aliiqbalali55 0 Posted March 12, 2010 but i know his blind followers will say sajda to him is also allowed. Allah ki panah Gul_E_HayaT The kissing of hands and feet Islam ..The kissing of hands and feet in Islam Some mischievous and unwise people tampered with the video clips of Mahfil Samaa` held in Damascus under the banner of Minhaj-ul-Quran International in 2005 and uploaded them on the internet to propagate that people were falling in prostration before Shaykh-ul-Islam Dr Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri and that Shaykh-ul-Islam was appreciating the gesture. It is stated that no such incident took place and it is but a slander, pure and simple. Those who have cooked this conspiracy are afraid that their fabricated beliefs are being hammered. In their heart of hearts they are afraid of Shaykh-ul-Islam’s towering intellectual personality and his powerful arguments based on Quran and Hadith. They are, through these base tricks, trying to distract the attention of people from Shaykh-ul-Islam’s wisdom-laden speeches and books. Mindlessly, they are flinging mud on the person who presented Islam based the Holy Qur`an and Hadith; on intellectual level they have yielded, so they are behaving in this foolish way. First of all, we would take up for discussion the matter of video clip of Mahfil Samaa` held in Damascus so that the confusion of those unwise and simpleton people, who have developed doubt that (God forbid) someone is offering prostration to Shaykh-ul-Islam, may be clarified. 1. Shaykh-ul-Islam Dr Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri never allowed anyone in his life to fall in prostration before him. What to speak of prostration, he strictly forbids his followers to kiss his hands. He never likes the act of someone kissing his feet. 2. He can clearly be seen pushing the person away who was bending to kiss his feet in the video clip of Mahfil Samaa` held in Damascus. Is it not regrettable that some of the ‘blind’ commentators have interpreted his act as demonstration of appreciation? 3. The entire world knows this fact that Shaykh-ul-Islam offers his prayer while sitting in the chair due to pain in his backbone and always uses medicated seat for sitting purpose. Therefore it was not possible for him to suddenly bend down to stop the person from bowing to kiss his feet. However, he can be seen trying to stop him with his hands. 4. The world also knows this too that he does use foot rest owing to pain in his backbone but he had participated in the Mahfil Samaa` held in Damascus during his journey. Therefore pillow was used due to unavailability of foot rest in the Mahfil Samaa`. The pill was not used there (God forbid) for people to bend over it and fall in prostration to him. What a pity that those commenting on it regarded it as an act of prostration in contravention of all cannons of justice and fair play! 5. Since the Mahfil Samaa` was held during the journey, therefore, it was not possible to make such arrangement as are normally made for such gatherings held at the central secretariat of Minhaj-ul-Quran International. In such gatherings, people are deputed to stop followers from kissing his feet strictly. If the video clip is reviewed by shunning all prejudice and partiality, it would become certain that one person is deputed there to prevent the followers from kissing his feet but when the person coming in did not find anyone on the other side, he took that way to be able to kiss his feet whom Shaykh-ul-Islam kept stopping strictly. 6. Therefore, it is not right for any Muslim to advertise and propagate anything without scrutiny and exact knowledge of facts. This is what the Holy Quran and the Sunna preach and is only the demand of the faith. So far as the kalam (poetry) being sung in the Mahfil Samma` is concerned, there is a message of Oneness of Allah (monotheism) in the poetry; based on mysticism and spiritualism. This kalam dedicated to Allah Almighty and the misuse of such kalam of excellence and highest order to establish one’s heinous and misplaced viewpoint is nothing but a sign of ignorance and out and out wretchedness. We have so far clarified that Shaykh-ul-Islam neither liked the act of kissing his hands and feet nor ever encouraged it, leave alone falling in prostration before him. In his speeches and books, he has always dubbed the act of prostration for worship (sajda ibada) as polytheism (shirk) and prostration out of veneration (sajda tazim) for someone other than Allah as forbidden (haram). Two of his books namely Kitab at-Tawhid and Tazim and Ibada could be consulted in this regard along with his numerous lectures and speeches. But a question arises here whether the act of kissing feet could be taken to mean prostration? Is kissing of feet an act of polytheism (shirk)? What are Islamic teachings about it? It is important to note as what would be the view of Islamic law if someone kissed the feet in peculiar circumstances? Given here below are some Prophetic traditions on the subject: 1. It is reported by Zari` ibn Aamir who came to the Holy Prophet (blessings and peace be upon him) along with delegation of Abul Qays: لَمَّا قَدِمْنَا الْمَدِيْنَةَ فَجَعَلْنَا نَتَبَادَرُ مِنْ رَوَاحِلِنَا، فَنُقَبِّلُ يَدَ رَسُولِ اﷲِصلی الله عليه وآله وسلم وَرِجْلَهُ. “When we came to the holy city of Madina, we jumped down from riding animals and began to kiss the blessed hands and feet of the Holy Prophet (blessings and peace be upon him).” This hadith is related by Imam Abu Dawud in as-Sunan (vol. 4, p. 357 # 5225). Moreover Imam Bayhaqi also narrated this in as-Sunan al-Kubra (vol. 7, p. 102) and Imam Tabarani in two of his books: al-Mujam al-Kabir (vol. 5, p. 275 # 5313); and al-Mujam al-Awsat (vol. 1, p. 133 # 418). 2. Imam Bukhari has devoted a chapter on kissing the feet al-Adab al-Mufrad. He has reported the same Hadith mentioned above from Wazi` ibn Aamir in the following words on page number 339 and hadith number 975. He reports: قَدِمْنَا فَقِيْلَ: ذَاکَ رَسُوْلُ اﷲِ صلی الله عليه وآله وسلم. فَأَخَذْنَا بِيَدَيْهِ وَرِجْلَيْهِ نُقَبِّلُهَا. “We came to Madina, (we) were told: That was the Holy Prophet (blessings and peace be upon him). So we enveloped the blessed hands and feet of the Holy Prophet (blessings and peace be upon him) and began to kiss them.” These words denote particular meaning. Narrator says that they did not merely content themselves with holding the blessed hands, rather kept on kissing the blessed feet besides hands, though they were holding the blessed hands and feet of the Holy Prophet (blessings and peace be upon him). 3. Imam Trimidhi has quoted Safwan bin Assal as reporting one hadith on the same subject. He says: some people of the Jewish nation came to the Holy Prophet (blessings and peace be upon him). They questioned him and gave declared evidence that he is the true Prophet of Allah: فَقَبَّلُوْا يَدَيْهِ وَرِجْلَيْهِ. وَقَالُوا: نَشْهَدُ أَنَّکَ نَبِيٌّ. “Then they kissed the blessed hands and feet of the Holy Prophet (blessings and peace be upon him) and said: we bear witness that verily you are the Prophet (blessings and peace be upon him) of Allah.” This Hadith is narrated by Imam Nasai in as-Sunan (vol. 7, p. 111 # 4078); Ibn Maja, as-Sunan (vol. 2, p. 1221 # 3705); Tirmidhi in as-Sunan (vol. 5, pp. 77, 305 # 2733, 3144), Ahmad ibn Hanbal in al-Musnad (vol. 4, pp. 239, 240), Hakim in al-Mustadrak (vol. 1, p. 52 # 20), Tayalisi in al-Musnad (p. 160 # 1164); and Maqdisi in al-Ahadith al-Mukhtara (vol. 8, p. 29 # 18). Despite the narration of this Hadith by a number of authentic hadith-narrators and using it as evidence, only a biased person could regard it as an act of the Jews and how we can give it the status of necessary evidence. What else can be said about this kind of thinking except expression of regret that the objector noticed the act of the Jew but did not see the blessed personality with whom it was being done? The Holy Prophet (blessings and peace be upon him) did not forbid the Jews to kiss his feet, it may well be regarded as silent Sunna (Sunna taqriri). 4. Highly respected student of Imam Ibn Taimiyya, Ibn Kathir, writes while narrating an incident in the interpretation of verse no 101 of Sura al-Maida that the Holy Prophet (blessings and peace be upon him) got annoyed over something: فَقَامَ إِلَيْهِ عُمَرُ بْنُ الْخَطَّابِ رضي الله عنه فَقَبَّلَ رِجْلَهُ وَقَالَ: يَا رَسُوْلَ اﷲِ، رَضِيْنَا بِاﷲِ رَبًّا وَبِکَ نَبِيًّا وَبِالإِْسْلَامِ دِيْنًا وَبِالْقُرْآنِ إِمَامًا فَاعْفُ عَنَّا عَفَا اﷲُ عَنْکَ فَلَمْ يَزَلْ بِهِ حَتَّی رَضِيَ. “Then Umar (may Allah be well pleased with him) stood up and he kissed the blessed feet of the Holy Prophet (blessings and peace be upon him) and said: O Prophet of Allah (blessings and peace be upon him)! We are pleased with Allah being Sustainer, your being the Prophet (blessings and peace be upon him), Islam being Din and the Holy Quran being guide and leader. Forgive us. Allah would further be pleased with you. So Umar (may Allah be well pleased with him) kept on saying so till he (blessings and peace be upon him) became pleased.” Other interpreters have also stated the above-mentioned same tradition while interpreting the relevant verse. Now the question arises here whether the act of kissing the blessed feet of the Holy Prophet (blessings and peace be upon him) by such a respected Companion of the stature of Umar (may Allah be well pleased with him) and the Prophet’s act of not stopping him from doing so constituted the violation of the concept of Oneness of Allah (God forbid). 5. Imam Muqri (d. 381 AH) quotes Burayda (may Allah be well pleased with him) as reporting in his Book Taqbil al-Yad (p. 64 # 5) that once a Bedouin came to the Holy Prophet (blessings and peace be upon him). He said: I have embraced Islam but I want more so that my faith should be strengthened. Then the Holy Prophet (blessings and peace be upon him) allowed him and a tree came to the Bedouin on his call and the tree said: O Prophet of Allah, peace be upon you. There is a long tradition that follows it. The Bedouin saw all of these signs and said: يا رسول الله! أئذن لي أن أقبل رأسك ورجلك. “O Prophet of Allah (blessings and peace be upon him)! Allow me to kiss your blessed forehead and blessed feat.” The tradition states that the Holy Prophet (blessings and peace be upon him) gave permission to that Bedouin. Then he requested for falling in prostration, the Holy Prophet (blessings and peace be upon him) did not allow him. Ibn Hajar Asqalani has narrated the same hadith reported by Imam Muqri in Fath al-Bari (vol. 11, p. 57). Furthermore, Allama Mubarak Puri has also quoted the same tradition in Tuhfa al-Ahwadhi (vol. 7, p. 437). This tradition very clearly states that the Holy Prophet (blessings and peace be upon him) permitted the kissing of his blessed feet but did not allow prostration before him. Had the kissing of feet and falling in prostration meant one and the same thing, he (blessings and peace be upon him) would never have allowed this at all. Did the Holy Prophet’s act of being silent and not stopping the Companions (may Allah be well pleased with them) from doing that not mean permission from him? Does that act of the Companions (may Allah be well pleased with them) not fall in the category of Sunna Taqriri? If the kissing of the feed is an act of prostration, were the Companions (may Allah be well pleased with them) prostrating themselves then? (God forbid) the Holy Prophet (blessings and peace be upon him) who was raised as a Prophet to spread the message of Oneness of Allah and eliminate polytheism, allowed the act of polytheism? Would that those objecting to the kissing of feet had studied something! A question can come up in the mind of the people that the kissing of feet was an act exclusive to the Holy Prophet (blessings and peace be upon him). We dilate here below as what is the reality of kissing of feet of non-Prophets, saints, religious scholars and spiritual directors? It is an undeniable reality that extending respect to the religious scholars and saints is what Islam requires with reference to the Holy Prophet (blessings and peace be upon him) and his Din. Interpreting their respect as polytheism is falsehood and being prejudiced with them is the sign of hypocrisy. The readers of the books of the Prophetic traditions know this reality that kissing the feet of the elders has been the usual practice of people of love and reverence. A few examples and precedents are being put forward here: 1. Suhayb (may Allah be well pleased with him) was the slave of Abbas (may Allah be well pleased with him). He states: رَأَيْتُ عَلِيًّا يُقَبِّلُ يَدَ الْعَبَّاسِ وَرِجْلَيْهِ وَيَقُوْلُ: يَا عَمِّ ارْضَ عَنِّي. “I saw Ali (may Allah be well pleased with him) kissing the hands and feet of Abbas (may Allah be well pleased with him) and he would keep saying this: O my Uncle! Become pleased with me.” It is narrated by Imam Bukhari in al-Adab al-Mufrad (p. 339 # 976); Dhahabi, Siyar Alam an-Nubala (vol. 2, p. 94); Mizzi, Tahdhib al-Kamal (vol. 13, p. 240 # 2905); and Muqri in Taqbil al-Yad (p. 76 # 15). 2. Imam Bukhari, a consensus traditionists of every school of thought and bright star of kingdom of knowledge, has devoted an entire chapter (number 444) on the kissing of hands in his book al-Adab al-Mufrad. He has narrated three Prophetic traditions on the ‘kissing of hands.’ It is manifestly clear that what it means is that the Companions used to kiss the hands of the Holy Prophet (blessings and peace be upon him) and the way the Companions (may Allah be well pleased with them) used to kiss the hands of the Prophet (blessings and peace be upon him), in the same way, Successors (tabi`in) would also kiss the hands of the Companions (may Allah be well pleased with them). While referring to these hadith, Imam Bukhari is throwing light on the manners of life that it was the way of the elders that they used to kiss the hands of the Shaykshs and religious scholars. Given the importance of the act, Imam Bukhari specified a separate chapter on the subject. This is not merely this. The chapter that follows Imam Bukhari has devoted to the ‘kissing of feet.’ By arranging these chapters in the book of manners, Imam Bukhari has clarified that he regarded the act of kissing hands and feet as manners of life. Had he considered these acts as denoting prostration or polytheism, he would neither have devoted separate chapters nor narrated Hadith on them. 3. When Imam Bukhari came to the city of Nishapur, a city of Imam Muslim, the most authentic hadith narrator of the Muslim world after Imam Bukhari, Imam Muslim came to see him. It is reported in all the books based on the life stories of the Imams that Imam Muslim kissed the forehead of Imam Bukhari and then requested his permission: دعني حتی أقبّل رجليک، يا أستاذ الأستاذين وسيد المحدّثين وطبيب الحديث في علله. “O teacher of teachers, master of traditionists and grand scholar on hadith weaknesses, allow me to kiss your feet.” It is also narrated by Ibn Nuqta in at-Taqyid li Marifa Ruwat as-Sunan wal-Masanid (vol. 1, p. 33); Dhahabi, Siyar Alam an-Nubala (vol. 12, p. 432, 436); Nawawi, Tahdhib al-Asma wal-Lughat (vol. 1, p. 88); Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani, Muqaddima Fath al-Bari (p. 488); and Nawab Siddiq Hasan Qanooji in al-Hitta fi Dhikr as-Sihah as-Sitta (p. 339). 4. Allama Shirwani Shafi`i writes in Hawashi (vol. 4, p. 84) قد تقرّر أنه يسنّ تقبيل يد الصالح بل ورجله. “It has been established through research that kissing the hands and feet of the saintly person is an act of Sunna of the Holy Prophet (blessings and peace be upon him).” 5. Abu al-Ula Abd ar-Rahman ibn Abd ar-Rahim Mubarakpuri, a respected scholar belonging to Deoband schools of thought and interpreter of Jami` at-Tirmidhi, has a distinguished position in the science of Hadith. He has listed all the above-mentioned Prophetic traditions on the kissing of hands and feet as evidence on page no 437 of the seventh volume of Tuhfat al-Ahwadhi. This clearly gives us an idea of his ways and practices. Likewise many traditions and instances could be quoted as reference but only a few have been quoted, which establishes the fact that kissing the hands and feet of saints and elders is a rightful and favourite act. The people of mysticism and spiritualism are convinced that the kissing of feet is not a normal act and those doing so do it out of love and devotion. Therefore there is nothing wrong with doing so for someone who is an established authority of knowledge and the Imam of the time. Therefore we should be very discreet while churning out Fatwas (religious edicts) and should do so only after studying the Holy Quran, Sunna, and acts of Companions and saints that too after getting rid of our biases and partiality. We should not project things without research and studies because the Holy Quran forbids to do so without proper investigation. The Holy Prophet (blessings and peace be upon him) has also condemned such an attitude. Allah Almighty says in verse number 6 of Surah al-Hujurat: يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا إِن جَاءَكُمْ فَاسِقٌ بِنَبَإٍ فَتَبَيَّنُوا. “O believers! If some (wicked) person brings you any news, inquire thoroughly in its truth.” Allah Almighty has ordained the believers in this verse to fully investigate the matters before forming their opinions on any matter. The purpose of doing so is to sift fact from fiction. They only take concrete step once they have been satisfied of the veracity of the matter. Referring to that, the Holy Prophet (blessings and peace be upon him) said: کَفٰی بِالْمَرْءِ کَذِبًا اَنْ يُحَدِّثَ بِکُلِّ مَا سَمِعَ. “It is sufficient for somebody to be a liar that he conveys every hearsay (without inquiring into its reality) to others.” Reported by Imam Muslim in as-Sahih (vol. 1, p. 10 # 5). The believers are being asked not to believe in the hearsay and fully investigate the matters from all angles before passing it on to others. They should only convey when the truth of the matter has been established because passing on such things without proper inquiry is like telling lie. There are many hadith on this that the believer could be all but not a liar. So only such a person can ignore the above mentioned arguments as has chosen to close his eyes to reality and plugged his ears against the truth. Clearly, the perpetrators are seeking shelter for their weak beliefs and have practically admitted their defeat knowledge-wise. May Allah Almighty protect us from such ignorance! May He open our eyes and ears to the true teachings of the Qur`an and Hadith! (Amin) 9.Love Ali (AS)-Kissing Hands and Feet in ... 9 min - 19 Oct 2008 www.youtube.com Kissing feet is allowed by HADITH of Sihah ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aliiqbalali55 0 Posted March 12, 2010 but i know his blind followers will say sajda to him is also allowed. Allah ki panahGul_E_HayaT Share this post Link to post Share on other sites