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is waqt ik hot issue chal raha hai about DOCTOR ABDUL QADEER KHAN

or yeh sub jantay hain doctor sahab nai pakistan ko atoimc power dee ..jis nai

pakistan ki bunyad mazboot kernay main bohat ahum kirdar ada kia ..

lakin is kay badlay main un ko kia mila raha hai ?

hamaree gov jo kuch doctor sahab kai sath ker rahee hai kia woh sahee hai ?

on ko harasat main lay lya gya or un kay uhday say un ko berrtaraf ker diya

gya ..kion ? or yeh sub kis kay kehnay per ho raha hai ?

dosree teraf india main dekha jayee to unhoon nai doctor islam jinhoon nai

india ko atomic power denay main ahum kirdar ada kia un ko mulk ka presedent

bana diya gya hai ..!

jo kuch doctor shab kai sath kia jarha hai is sai kia asrat paida ho saktay hain ?

want to know about ur thinking !

rukh

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well its a long disscussion

ager hum thora sa realistic ho ker sochain to doctor abdul qadeer khan ne jo kuch kiya uss me pichli hakoomtoon ka bhee bohat haath hay

Duniya me jitni bhee scintific labs hain un me jitnay bhee loog eisay ohdoon per kaam kertay hain jis per doctor abdul qadeer sahib kaam kertay rehay unhain under ground rekha jata hay

un loogoon ko Sir ka khitab diya jata hay lakin manzare aam per nahee laya jata or uss kee 2 wajoohat hotee hain

1/ Security

2/ Press

Doctor sahib ko President se ziyada protocol or scurity dee gaee lakin unhain Islamabad me E-7 me hee rahaish dee gaee jahan baqi sab burocrates rehtay hain unhain baqi mumalik kee terah apni Lab ke saath qaid nahee kiya giya or result ke Doctor sahib Press se nahee bach sakay or unhoo ne eisay biyan denay shuroo ker diye jo koi bhee Scientist nahee deta or uss me qasoor gov ka hay jinhoo ne doctor sahib ko pehlay bandh ker nahee rekha or ab unkay biyanat per khud preshan ho gae

Ager doctor Abdul Qadeer or unkay saathiyoon ko pehlay se he unkay ahle khana samait Labs ke ander rekha hota to aaj yeh din na aataay

Baqi reh gaee elegation kee baat to jo Ilzamaat Doc Abdul Qadeer or unkay saathiyoon per hain woh Ilzamat ager Quaide Azam per bhee hotay to shaid unkay saath bhe yahee hota Pakistan ke Atomic Formula ko sale ker dena woh bhe Gov ke notice me lae begher yeh koi mamooli baat nahee. haan ager gov policy hotee to or baat thee or ager gov ne khud deal kiya hota to phir scintist na arest hotay or na hee duniya ko baat kernay ka moqa milta

jo kuch bhee ho rehaa hay uss per duniya hum per hunstee ho gee lakin ager hum asool tor dain to bhee ghalat hay ab aap kahain gee ke hum or bhee asool tortay hain lakin eik wajah se Pakistan per international dabao aa jae or humaray Scintist Formula sale ker dain or woh bhee Gher Islami countries ko aap kiya samajhtee hain ke yeh qable muafi hay??????????

me yahan misal dena nahee chahtaa thaa kiunkay phir aap taweelain banaein gee ke yahaan Islamic qanoon nahee or bohat se loogoon ko kuch nahee kaha jaata or Scintist hee kiun nishana banay lakin phir bhee me misal doon ga ke humaray Nabi ne fermaya ke ager unki betee bhee chori me pakeri jaein to unhain bhee koi riyat nahee dee jae gee

Ager aaj Scintist ko saza ya jo tahqeqat ho rehee hain woh sakhtee se hoon gee to phir kisi ko eisa kaam kernay kee jurrat nahee ho gee

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Nice topic Rukh i was just here to Post this topic and happy to see urs ....goi tu sath lagta hai apne :)

I was avoiding the discussion on current Govt as some members dont like my views but now i cant be quite anymore. I would like to give award to Musharraf

Tamgha-e-Ghadar-e-Pakistan

His actions are Against the exsistance of Pakistan. HE Want to Prove our HEROS wrong :huh: Before saying anything would like to update about latest news, as u read in the newspaper that ke Dr AQ Khan ne written aitraf kar liya hai....... read this news ...... it shows that how much sincere they are with Pakistan

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well Waqas i would say Tahqeeq honee chahiye

Mukamil or Insaaf ke saath this is better for Pakistan

and everyone knows ke ager Scintist per Ilzamat sabit na howe to woh Hatake Izzat ka dawa bhee ker saktay hain

Lakin eik sawal me poochna chahoon ga lakin me pehlay yeh bata doon ke mera taluq kisi bhee political party se nahee

Mian nawaz sharif ko kiun mulk se nikala giya uss nay bhee to eik decision liya to Pakistan Atomic power bana ager Mian nawaz sharif kee jagah per General Pervaiz Musharaf hota to kiya Pakistan Nuclear Test kerta??????????????

Kabhee bhee nahee kiun ke General sahib to subha Bed se uthnay se pehlay Dictation letay hain America se apnay Din ke kamoon kee

to ager Scientists ke Arrest honay per jamate Islami awam ko serkoon per lana chah rehee hay to Mian Nawaz sharif kee dafa yeh kahaan they?????????

in loogoon ne Faiz sahib ko kiun mulk bader honay diya ??????

khair me samajhtaa hoon ke Scintists ke mutaliq jo tahqeqat ho rehee hain zaroor honee chahiyein haan torture nahee hona chahiye or ager kisi ka qasoor hay to ussay saza zaroor milnee chahiye

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In Response to Asim U are right but its for coutires like US which has their own Atomic technology but they are transfering to other countries like israel

In Case of Pakistan, the Amoic Power is only and only due to Dr Abdul Qadeer Khan warna tu Pakistan bhi na hota ajj i am sure. This technology is transfered to Pakistan by Him and three countries helped Qadeer everything was done underground warna US will never allow Pakistan to do so. In the same way if he transfered this to other country then iss main buraee hi kia hai? Iran is a Muslim country too, waise bhi if u sale 1 bomb to Sudia, we can get rid of all the loans.

Iran said that Pakistan didnt transfered any technology to it then who said? US offcource because US is against Pakistani Nuclear Power as Paksitan is Only Islamic country to have and why Musharraf is doing all this because he is their AGENT

There is a Lot more to say but better to know others views too :)

Waqas

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tamgha ghadare pakistan.. wow.. if one cant give him a nice name. so dont award him such names also.

aq khan has confess. he did tranfer nuclear technology.

for the rest. i wont like to give a comment

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Your are Right Paksitani :yes:

Musharaf is leading us towards the destruction of Paksitan,

Im also not for any Political party but u said why did JamaateIsalami when Musharaff kicked Nawaz

Well first of All link Qazi as MMA not as Jamaat now , they were not in the opposition at that time but now they are and if i remember they did it at their level and keep on commenting even then when Musharaf allowed us to attack Afghanis and other issues.

I Hope ke Public as usual MMA ka sath de gee lets see what 5/6 Feb :)

Waqas

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:lol:@ Fati

US want Pakistan to Roll Back Nuclear Programme same as he did recently in Libia, US uninstalled all the plants and take them away and informed after 2 days huh

I fear if we didnt got rid of such president the same could happen here too.

Waqas

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kiya baat hai ap logon ki.. is ko kehtay hai na law.. musharaf do ohdon pe hai.. tu wo duniya ka sub se galat kaam kar raha hai. magar agar aq khan ne technology tranfer ker di to kiya galat kiya.... humari economy improve ho rahi hai. debt pay horaha hai.... but musharaf he is leading us towards destruction....

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well qazi sahib is populer for his strikes and pakistani ppl had an experience of his strik (dharna) against Benazir and that was 100% succesful as bebazir bhutto had to left her seat

in case of constitution its must i m saying again and again or rah gaee baat help kee to jin countries ne pakistan kee help kee technology teransfer kernay me woh Doctor Abdul qadeer khan kee nahee bulkay gov kee deal thee

Doc sahib zarror technology teransfer kerain lakin gov deal se apnay zaati taluqat ke ooper nahee kiun ke iss stage per insaan ko sirf or sirf apnay mulk ke liye sochna chahiye or ager koi insaan apnay mulk ke raaz ya technology bahir teransfer ker day woh bhee gov ko eitemad me liye begher to woh jurm hay or uss per jo act lagta hay woh bhee ghadari ka hay ager doctor Abdul Qadeer khan per ghadari ka muqadma chala to Pakistan me civil war shuroo ho jae gee kiun ke awam apnay hero ko kabhee bhee eisay nahee dekhna chahain gey

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kiya baat hai ap logon ki.. is ko kehtay hai na law.. musharaf do ohdon pe hai.. tu wo duniya ka sub se galat kaam kar raha hai. magar agar aq khan ne technology tranfer ker di to kiya galat kiya.... humari economy improve ho rahi hai. debt pay horaha hai.... but musharaf he is leading us towards destruction....

Fati You are right he is on 2 posts but still he is a Illegal President for us even then he get vote of Confidence because he get it from his own Side kicks :blink:

But this in not the topic to Discuss we are discussing Dr AQ Khan

Fati we cant say that he transfered the Nuclear Tecnology UNTIL we get any proofs see the news in urdu posted by ME

Waqas

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The Higher Authority was aware if its true that the technology is transfered to other states.

Just read the latests ....said UNKOWN Friend of AQ Khan

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Waqas

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oh good responce :) so waqas mainy yeh topic post ker kay zehmat say bacha liya :D well thanx for pinned this topic !

nice replies by pakistani & waqas

Urdu times kai mutabiq pakistani citizens ka ik servuy kia gya hai jis main poocha giya hay kai kia pakistani scientist nuclear techonolgy transfer ker saktay hain ? 83 % pakistani citizines nai kaha kai yeh nahi ho skta @ ..

well latest news kay mutabiq dr aq baghir kissi mazhimat kay investigation main help ker rahay hain or unhoon nai khud yeh faisla kia hai kay jub tak D BREAFING ka process mukamal nahi ho jata woh islamabad say kaheen nahi jain gay ..

D BREAFING kay nam per hamray heros kay sath jo mazak gov ker rahee hai us ka sub say zyada nuqsan PAKISTAN ko khud ho raha ...

sirf ik LETTER ki base per itna hangama machaya giya hai ... hamray presdent zoro shor say news papper main byan day rahay MULK DUSHMANOO ko nahi chorian gay jis QANOON tora os ko sakht say sakht saza dain gay ...

is sub say kia ho ga ? sirf itna kay ajj kay bad pakistan main koi DOCTOR ABDUL QADEER bannay ki ghaltee nahi keray ga na pakistan kay benifit kay baray main soochay ga

as said waqas & i am agree with him kai agr techonolgy transfer ki bhi hay to islamic country ko hee kia hay or is sai pakistan ko koi nuqsan nahi pohnchta ,its fact ,,app LAWS to ab yahan chor dain kion kay jub hum LAWS ki bat kerain gay to is say pehlay app ko bohat saray sawaloon ka jawab daina hoga ?

yeh LAWS us waqt kahan thay jub presedent nay US FROCES KO ghair qanoone tor per mulk kay hadood istimal kernay ki ijazat dee ...ager app LAWS ki bat karain gay to sub pehlay MULK DUSHMAN to app hee hain

behrhal is dramay ka maqsad kia hay ..yeh to sub jantay hain yeh sub US ka pressure main kia jaraha hay AMERICAN INSITUTE FOR SCIENCE & INTERNATIONAL SECURITY KAI PRESEDNAT DAVID ALBRAIT NAI kaha hai kai doctor abdul qadeer khan

ki berterfi US kai dabaoo kay tehat ammal main ayee hay kion kai america ko shuba tha kai woh nuclear technology kai raaz afsha ker rahay thay or america yeh qatayee berdasht nahi ker sakta atomic power america kai dushmanoo main pohnchay .

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so guys.. u got the proof. the state wasnt involve.. its was just aq khan... but he is our hero so his appeal shud b accepted....

now the opposition is quite.. so its proved now that it wasnt a blame!

tu mazak government ne nahi kiya... mazak itnay saloun se ho raha tha....

.... musharaf ka zikr is liya kiya hai ke agar wo do ohndoun pe hai to usko critisize karay ke liya har waqt tayar raha jata hai.. magar ab illegal activity jo aq khan ne kiya us ka zikr kiya ja raha hai tu ap sab us ko sahi keh rahay hain.. ke is main koi burai nahi.. burai na hoti agar government ko pata hota.. government ki acceptance se ya kaam hota... but it was an illegal activity

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yeah fati mera bhe yahe point of view hay ke tahqeeq honee chahiye or mujrim ko saza denee chahiye mujrim chahay General PM ho ya Dr. AQ ager hum yoonhi sab ko muaf kertay rehain ke yeh humara Hero hay issay yeh choot hay ke woh yeh ker lay to hum ne to apni lutiya apnay hathoon hee dabo dee na

yeh na samjha jae ke me General PM kee hamayat ker rehaa hoon me kehta hoon ke ussay bhee eik na eik din D Breafing ka saamna kerna peray ga kiunkay woh bohat arsay tak begher halaf ke Pakistan ke president rehay President Rafiq tarer ko begher kisi charg sheet ke or begher resignation ke gher bhej diya giya American Army ko apnat Air port diye gae Trible Areas me gher qanooni operations kiye gae in sab ka jawab dena peray ga

Allah keray ke in hisaboon ka waqat bhee jald hee aae

Lakin abhee tahqeeqat honee chahiyein ho sakta hay ke iss tahqeeq ke result me bohat se naam or bhee aa jaein or Dr. sahib beqasoor sabit ho jaein ho sakta hay ke unhoo ne technology kisi ke kehnay per hee teransfer ke ho lakin Mujrim ko saza milni chahiye humain kisi bhee eisay shakhs ko nahee chor dena chahiye jo ke humara Hero hay or issay Gunah muaf hain

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salam all

i just hate iran and libiya.... hum log baat kertay hain Muslim ummah ki....kya hai Muslim ummah???? iran nay pakistan ka naam liya....libiya nay bhi .....baychara Abdul Qadeer Khan.....uss ki tamam details iran nay he di hain....aur Musharraf he ki wajah say abhi tak aap kay mulk kay atomic programme per kisi nay ungli nahin utthaee.....so plzz qazi sahib kay bayaan mut parrhain ...yeh sub syasat ka hissa hain ...her koee iss moqay say faeda uthana chahta hai

lekin iran ko dekho zara....i just hate iran and libiya!....iran kay humesha say india say behter relations rahay hain....aur pakistan ko silla mil gaya ....yeh hai humari Muslim Ummah! Pakistan hai to hum hain....warna humain koee nahin poochay ga

aur ALLAH keray ab Musharraf aur baaqi sub AQ khan ko maaf ker den ....aaj uss nay puri qom say maafi maangi hai <_<

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coool Qazi ki baat sahi lagti hai Qadeer changed after just a meeting with Musharaf how can this possible without a DEAL? I think Musharaf give him that speach to read if he wana get release what do you think?

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:) is it breaking news for u guys :o yeh to hona tha .. kia kabhi aisa hoa hay gov joo kahay or kay khilaf koi bat ho jayee how possible ?

DOCTOR ABDUL QAEER khan ik bar phir pakistan kay hero ban chukay hain ... gov or US kay ilawa is waqt her insan DR AQ ko appriciate ker raha hay !

app logoon ko pata ho ga is neuclear techonology kay transfer main ARMY OFFICERS kay nam annay walay thay ..ager doctor AQ apnay opper yeh sub na laytay to pakistan ki army force mushkil main atee .... PAKISTAN kay tahfuz kay ley dr ABDUL QADEER khan ko yeh sub kerna pera ...

or waisay bhi guys yeh to bohat samnay ki bat hay US is bat ko mannay ko tyar nahi hai ki pakistnai gov is saray mamlay main baykhaber hay jis ki bina per yeh bat bohat pehlat new paper main achukee thee i think 25 jan ya 28 jan kay news paper main kaha gya tha KRL main sai kissi ik ko qurbani kay ley paish kia jaye ga or dr AQK ka nam sar-e-fehrast hay

OR rahee bat IRAN ki i think itnee AQAL to woh bhi rakhtay hain US pehlay hee AL qaida ki base per us kay peechay pera hay or woh atomic techonolgy kay baray khud ailan ker kay apnay paoon per kulharee to mernay say raha

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coool Qazi ki baat sahi lagti hai Qadeer changed after just a meeting with Musharaf how can this possible without a DEAL? I think Musharaf give him that speach to read if he wana get release what do you think?

agreed waqs, magur ground realities ka kya :(

yeh sheer hia na

yeh dour bhi dekh ahi tareekh ki aankhoun ny

lumhoun ny khata ki thi sudyoun ny saza pai

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Why only 1 person had to Admit ... Whare are the 10 others? 3 Army Officers .... why they are hiding 10 other? Its not a Fair Game playing around here ... Qadeer did this to hide all others? i think

Waqas

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right but waqas it happened only bcoz iran took his name...and gave all the details abt his personal a/cs and all his dealings....now why did iran do that?? and libiya 2 did that.... kya iran ko yeh khayal nahin aya keh uss kay aisa kernay say pakistan kitni mushkil mein phans sakta hai?? aur aap theek keh rahay hain yeh sub drama tha jo musharaf nay khaila aur kya khoob khaila....agar woh aisa na kerta aur keh deta keh iss mein uss dor ki hakumat bhi shamil thee to america nay to aajana tha aap kay nuclear assets cheennay kay liye....aur kehna tha keh they were not in safe hands ! waaaaay to go musharaf ! :yes:

ab iss tarah AQ khan bhi buch gaya ;) halaankeh woh buri tarah say phans chuka tha....sub transactions uss kay apnay a/c say hueen theen .... aur rahi baat baaqi humaray sayasat daano ki to woh to humesha her dor ki hakumat kay khilaaf he rahay hain ...kisi baat per khush nahin hotay :D

khair jo bhi hua sub iran aur libiya ki wajah say hua ... hum chalay thay muslim ummah ko mazboot kernay ...aur haqeeqat yeh hai keh aisi koee cheez nahin ....pakistan hai to hum hain ! :)

YA'ALLAH humain kaafiron say bacha (Ameen)

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I have many flaws but being ahsan faramush is not one of them. There are three groups of people to whom we owe our lives, our well being, and the safety of our family and friends.

1. In the last 55 years if it was not for the men of armed forces of Pakistan who gave their lives to protect me and my family and friends, I would not existed as a free man.

2. And recently if it was not for the work of Dr. A.Q. Khan and his team members, right now we would have been under foreign occupation and under going systematic genocide. We would never have never gotten out of this foreign occupation even for a 1000 years. Our culture, our lives, our families would have been completely wiped out. Most probably when the enemy forces would have been approaching Karachi .......

There comes a time in a persons life if he/she does not act no matter what the consequences, then he/she would not be able face one self. I do not know what that point is for you. But for me I would rather die then betray my benefactors.

Dr. A.Q. Khan and his team members are not just our benefactors but the symbol of Pakistani Science and Technology, and the future of Pakistan. They are the only team who has accomplished any thing in the field of science and technology for Pakistan. I am not a mouse but a man; I stand by him and his team.

Further more, it is a question of self interest as well. If Dr. A.Q. Khan and his family, friends and collegues are not safe in Pakistan, then what about us?

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tamgha ghadare pakistan.. wow.. if one cant give him a nice name. so dont award him such names also.

aq khan has confess. he did tranfer nuclear technology.

for the rest. i wont like to give a comment

Read my reply in this topic... I have already answered all your mis conceptions...

http://www.coolyarforums.com/index.php?showtopic=1856&st=0

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