Wel Done Musharraf!

[fati 0]

right sidd... musharaf was against nawaz. tabhi tu nawaz shareef na us ko hattaya. wo waqt kisi ko yad nahi ata... loog ko ya shikayat hai ke musharaf kayun aiy aur marshall law laga diya... if nawaz shareef wudnt have done all that... anyhow.. Musharaf is doing best for our country and ALLAH is protecting him!

[sidd 0]

Thx Fati Ji :flower:

right mushi nawaz kay is lye against tha kion kay nawaz sharif kuch zyada hi USA kay cheelay ban gaye thay aur country ko ghalat raastay per lay ker ja rahay thay agar musharaf nahin hota tu shayad afghanistan kay saath saath pakistan per bhi USA ya india ka qabza hota

In Love

" S I D D "

[rukh 25]

well GUYZ main na to MUSHRAFF KAI SATH HOON NA NAWAZ KAI SATH ....

SIDD AGER NAWAZ NAI USA KAI PET KA ROLE ADA KIA TO APP KAI KHIYAL MAIN KIA WOHEE KAM MUSHARAFF NAHI KER RAHA ?

MAIN AGER YAHAN ISLAM KI BAT KER RAHEE HON TO OWH NAQAB YA BEARD NAHI HAY ...ISLAM FAQAT IN CHEEZOON PER MEHDOOD HAI ?

MAIN YAHAN ISLAM KAI UN RULES KI BAT KER RAHEE HOON JO POLITICS KAI BARAY MAIN HAIN

FATI APP KEHTEE HAI KAI ALQAIDA BHI GHALAT THEE OR USA BHI GHALAT HAI ...

TO JUB SATH HEE DAINA THA TO KIA HAMRAEE PREFRENCE MUSLIM COUNTRY NAHI HONEE CHAEYE THEE?

JUB NAWAZ KA DOOR THA REMEMBER JUB OS KAI "KARNAMAY ""SAMNI NAHI AYEE THAY ... TO US KO AIK BEHTER PRESEDNY KAHA JATA THA ..JIN NAI PAKISTAN KO ATOMIC POWER DEE...JIS NAI HIGH WAYS OVER HEADS ..YELLOW CAB SCHEME CHALA KER BAYROGAREE KHTUM KI ...JIS NAI QARAZ UTARAIN SCEHME CHALYEE....OS KAI DOOR MAIN MEDIA NEWSPAPPER OS KI SIRF WOHEE BATTAIN BATATAY JO POSSITTIVE THEEN

WHEN MUSHARRAF CAME ....HE DISCLOSED FACTS ABOUT HIM

or jo LOG KAL NAWAZ KAI SATH THAY ... REMEMBER WOH LOG JO JUB APNAI MULK KI TARAQEE DEKH KAY KHUSH HOTAY I AM NOT TALKIN ABOUT NAWAZ PARTY ....UN LOGOON KO JUB ASLEAT PATA CHALEE TO ZAHIR HAI UN KA AITMAD TOOT GIYA

NOW MUSHARAFF .... IS NAI BHI WAYSAY HEE START LIYA JAISAI HER POLITICIAN LAYTA HAI ..

NAWAZ NAI ATTAY HAI BAY NAZEER KO DIS CLOSE KIA US KAI AACOUNTS SHOW KEYE OS KO BANN KIA

MUSHARAFF NAY ATTAY HEE NAWAZ KO BANN KI US KAI ACCOUNTS SHOW KEYE

AB MUSHARAFF NAI BHI BOHAT SEE SCHEMEZ CHALIANN HAIN JIN SAI BAYSHAK PAKISTAN KO FAIDA POHANC RAHA HAI ...

LAKIN MUSHARRAF BHI TO WOHEE KER RAHA HAI JO SUB NAI KIA ..ATTAY HEE SUB SAY PEHLAU USA KAI QADOMOON MAIN SALAM ... HAZIR JANAB KA NARA

USA SUPPER POWER UN LOGOON KAI LEY HAI JIN KO KHUDA PER YAQEEN NAHI ....

MUSHARAFF KIA NAYA KER RAHA HAI ? MUSHARAAF KAI BAD JO NAYA PRESEDNT BANAY GA WOH ATTAY HAI MUSHARRAF KAI POOL KHOLAY GA US KO BANN KARAY GA OR WOHEE SUB HO GA JO 50 SALL SAY HO RAHA ...

HER HAKUMAT MAIN YEH SHOR UTHTA HAI KAI IS DOR MAIN JITNA QARZ PAKISTAN KA UTRA HAI WOH KISSI HAKUMAT MAIN NAHI UTRA ..

HUM JAISEE AWAM JO APNAI MULK SAI MUHABBAT BHI KERTAY HAIN OR APNAI MUSLMAN BHAIOON OR BEHNOO SAI BHI JIN PER BAYJA ZULM HO RAHA ...HUM AHTRAM KERTAY HAIN APNNI DEENI ULAMA KA ..HUM FAKHER KERTAY HAIN APNAI MUJAHDEEN PER

AIK ISLAMI RYASAT KA FERZ HAI KAI SUB SAY PEHLAI US KAI MAD-E-NAZER APNAI LOG HOON....

AL QAIDA OSAMA ..OR DOSRAY MUJAHDEEN ... UN KA TAREEQA-E- KAR GHALAT HO SAKTA HAI LAKIN NO DOUBT KAI UN KI BUNYAD GHALAT NAHI ...WOH JIS MISSHION kai ley ler rahay hain WOH GHALAT NAHI ...HAAN US KO JIS TERHA SAY PERFROM KER RAHAY HAIN WOH GHALAT HAI

USA JO KER ARAHA HAI WOH BHI GHALAT HAI USA KI JO BASE HAY WOH BHI GHALAT HAI ...USA NA SIRF KHUD KO SUPER POWER BANA RAHA BULKAI APNAI HUM MAZHAB SATHIYON KO BHI BACHA RAHA HAI

TO MUSLMANOO KO YEH AQAL KION NAHI HAI ..HAMRAY HUKMRAN YEH KION NAHI SOOCHTAY .... PAKISTAN KAI PRESEDENT AFGHANISTAN KA SATH DAYTAY TO ! ALLAH PER YAQEEN KERTAY TO ! KOSISH TO KERTAY ! !KIA ISLAMIC HISTORY MAIN AISEE JANGAIN NAHI HOYEEN JUB MUSLMAN CHAND TADAD MAIN THAY OR KUFFAR LASHKER MAIN

KIA ALLAH NAI MUSLMANOO KO FATAH NAHI DEE THEE?

AJJ AFGHANISTAN MAIN AGER WOH LOG HAAR GAYEE TO IS KA MUTLUB YEH KION LAYTAY HAIN KAY YEH ''HAAR '' HEE HAI

KIA APPP KO WOH WAQIA YAD NAHI ATTA ..JUB HAZOOR MAKKA SAHABA KAI SATH UMRA KERNAI GAYEE THAY OR KUFFAR NAI ANNAY NAHI DIYA TO SULAH-E-HUDABIA KI SHRAIT HOYEE THEE..OS MAIN BAZAHIR MUSLMANOO KI HAAR THEE LAKIN ALLAH NAI WAHEE NAZIL KI KAI YEH MUSLMANOO KI FATTAH HAI OR AGLAY SALL MUSLMANOO NAI FATAH MACCA JAISEE AZEEM KAMYABI HASIL KI

MOLANA YOUSF LUDHYANWI AIK AZEEM ALIM THAY ..OR SIDD MAIN EXACTLY INHEE ULMA KI BAT KER RAHEE HOON ... MAIN NAM NEHAD MLOVIOON KI FAVOUR KER BHI NAHI RAHEE... KIA IN ULMA KO SARKAREE TOR PER ITNEE AHMEAYT DEE JATEE HAI KAI IN SAY MASHWERA KER LAIN ? HER GIZ NAHI...JUB KAI YEH APP KO BEHTREEN HAL BATA SAKTAY HAIN ..

MUSHARRAF JAISA NAWAZ JAISSA BAY NAZEER JAISA IN JAISA WAQYEE FUTURE MAIN KOI NAHI AA SAKTA ....KION KAY YEH SUB AIK DOSRAY SAY CHAR HATH AGAY HEE NIKALTAY HAIN.. ..

OR FATI APP YEH KEHTEE HAIN KAI ALLAH KI SAPPORT MUSHARRAF KAI SATH HAI JO WOH BACH GIYA BAY SHAK BACHANY WALA ALLAH HAI ..LAKIN KABHI KABHI YEH RASEE KI DHEEL HOTEE HAI KAI ALLAH MAIN MUHLAT DAYTAY HAIN INSAN KO KAI AB SUDHER JA ..

JAISAI APP KEHTEE HI AISAY HEE NAWAZ PARTY KAI LOG KEHTAY HAIN NAWAZ BILKUL SAHEE THE TUBHEE TO US KO ALLAH NAY ITNEE SHAN SAI APNAY GHER BUALAYA WAHAN MEHAL MAIN RAHA ...HAHAHA

NADAN OR ANJAN LOG YEH NAHI JANTAY FIROON KO BHI ALLAH NAI MALOO DOLAT DE THEE TAQAT DEE THEE ..PER US KA INJAM KIA HOA

ALLAH HUMAIN SAHEE RASTAY OR SAHEE LOGON KI TERAF RAHNUMAYEE FERMAYEE AMEEN

Edited December 26, 2003 by rukh

[fati 0]

al qaida ko supprot ker ke kiya milta.... jab donon hi galat hain tu muslim aur non muslim ko kiya dekhna.. america ko support na kiya hota tu aj pakistan aik desert hota just like iraq and afghanistan... pakistan is saved the credit goes to musharaf... magar koi kayun accept karay.

yahan tu baat kar hi di.. mulim galat ho ya sahi us ka sath do.. kayun.

what do u want , kiya musharaf nawaz ke harkatain na batatay.... galat logon ko na pakarwao tab bhi masebat, pakarwa do tu ya kaha jaiy ke ya bhi pechli governments ki tarah hai, loog satisfy ho hi nahi saktay.

han . ap predictions de do.. dekh lain ge kiya hota hai. jis baat ke baray main ap confirm nahi ho.. us ki itni surity kaisay..

kiya sath diya hai USA ka?

afghanistan ka sath de ker kiya milta.. jis country ne humain as a country accept nahi kia... jis ne kabhi support nahi kia.. un ko support kayun kartay.

fikr na karein... yahan koi wahi nahi utar rahi... bura non muslim ho ya muslim, saza usay milti hai. aur is waqai ko ap kis se relate ker rahi ho.. us waqt leader HAZOOR SAW thay.. sahabi ala kirdar ke thay..... kis ko kis se mila rahi hain.

kiya baat hai... ALLAH kisi pe karam ker dai tab bhi wo shaitan... bas kuch bhi ho jaiy condemn hi karna hai..

logon ko tu baat se baat nikalni ati hai... koi baat nahi achay logon ke baray dushman hotay hain. time will tell...

baseless bataon per continously comment kiya ja raha hai.. musharaf ya musharaf wo.. musharaf ne ya ker dia , wo ker dia.. ultimately kehnay ka matlab ya hai ap ka ke musharaf alqaida ko support kerta.. thnx to ALLAH he didnt.. musharaf ke zara se USA ki baat manay ko itna masla banaya ja raha hai.. wo ap ka mujahid osama jo america ka banda tha us ke baray main kiya kahein gi app?

[rukh 25]

ya to app nai meree post nahi perhee ya app samjhee nahi

app mujhai yeh keh rahee hain kai mujhai sirf agint hona hai ..bilawajha tanqeed kernee hai ..or kuch nahi

to app kia ker rahee hain ? app ko favour main hona hai ... to app apni logics dey rahee hain

yeh ti kissi bhi discussion ka tareeqa hOTA hai fati ...meree koi app sai persnal larayee to nahi hai jo main app ki battaon kai against hoon

jis ka jo point of view hai woh wohee byan kerta hai ....

main HAZOOR OR SAHAB ko kissi SAI milla nahi rahee ..main yeh keh rahee hoon kai JO KUCH ISLMAIC HISTORY MAIN GUZRA woh sabaq HAI HAMRAY LEY ....

KIA APP NAI WOH HAITD NAHI SUNEE JIS KA MAFHOOM HAI MUSLMAN APNAI BHAI KA MUSHKIL MAIN SATH DAYTA HAI

PRIDICTION AGER MAIN DEY RAHEE HOON TO APP LOG BHI PRIDICTION DEY RAHAY HAIN KAI AGER AFGHANISTAN KA SATH DAYTA TI PAKISTAN DESERT BAN JATA

YANEE AB TMAM MUSLIM MULK KO USA SAY DER KER REHNA CHAEYE ...US KA SATH DENA CHAEYE ...

KAL KO AGER PAKISTAN PER HAMLA HO OR IRAN YA AFGHANISTAN AMERICA KA SATH DAY TO APP KIA FEEL KERAIN GEE?

MUSHARAFF NAI AGER KISSI POLITICION KAI RAZ KHOL DEYE YA PAKKER LIYA TO KOI TEER NAHI MARA ..OFCOUCE HER POLITICION YEHE KERTA HAI ...

YEH FACT HAI ..AB APP NAHI SAMJHNA CHAHTEE TO KOI KIA KERAY

MUSHARRAF YEH MUSHARRAF WO ...BAT YEH MUSHRAAF KIA?

USA KA SATH ABHI NAHI DIYA TO YEH ALLAM HAI

OR AGER DEY DIYA TO JANAI KIA HO GA

OSAMA AMERICA KA BANDA THA ..YEH SUN LIYA APP NAI ...ZARA AGAY KI INFORMATION BHI LAI LAYNEE THEE..YA MAIN BATA DOON

PHIR APP KO YAQEEN AJAYEE GA?

OSAMA IS BASICLLAY SAUDI CITIZEN ...HE BELONG TO RICH FAMILY OF SAUDIAN ..

OSAMA NAI USA SAI TRANING LEE HAI ..JUB RUSHIA NAI AFGHANISTAN PER HAMLA KIA ..TO USA NAI AL QAIDA KO SUPPORT KIA COZ USA CHAHTA THA KAI RUSHIA JO US WAQT SUPPER POWER THA WOH NA RAHAY ..

USA NAI AFGHANISTAN KO SUPPORT KIA ...APNAI MUTLUB KAY LAY

AFGHANISTAN NAI USA KI MADED LEE KION KAI UN KAI PASS ITNEE POWER THEE NAHI ..OR AS USUALL KOI MUSLIM COUNTRY MAIN ITNEE HIMMAT THEE NAI KAI SATH DAYTA...

OSAMA AMERICA KA BANDA HAY NA AFGHANISTAN KA.... WOH SIRF ALLAH ka banda hai ...

[ariba 0]

Salam.........Rukh I am agreed with u.Fati pakistan is saved????this is wat u think.pakisatn ki chaklala air base jo keh army ka sensitive alaqa hai ajj kaal fbi aur american forces kay pass hai.aur sarhad kay ilaqe main bhi kuch aisi hi sorate haal hai.

pakistan eik atomic power hai lakin DR.ABDUL QADEER ko uss ki post see kiun hatya gaya??takeh koee aur bobm na tayar kar day.

aur uss kay saathiyon kay saath aisi salook kiya ta keh koee bunda atomic energy ko join na kare.kiss baat ka saboot chahye app ko??

Kashimir koee dispute nahin hai yeh ajj bhi hull ho sakta hai.Aur islam ???naam bhi naa lo keh pakistan islamic country hai.itni tazllel islam ki.ptv daikha app nee private channel daikhe aur sub see barh kar Basant night aur aise doosre functions chaloo bahir tou kuch nazar aya ya nahin andar hi andar kiya hua??yeh app nahin janti keh kiya hua aub app proof chahti hain lakin u must know main kabhi bhi proof kay baghair baat nahin karti.

see u later.

[fati 0]

abdul qadeer khan.... ya ofcourse a scientist.. u know a scientist is not allowed to say anything about his projects. but during nawaz time instead of nawaz aq khan declared about the bomb... he is always passing comments... whereas a scientist is not allowed to do so.

Pakistan is a nuclear power and nuclear preparations r going on... a scientist have certain limits.. if he'll cross it then he has to suffer.

my many realtives r in ATomic commision and nothing like that is happening there.

pakistan needs a revolution like iran... president is not the one to control the media. wat do u think.. can he ban on all the actresses, can he ban the film industry.. u know if he did so.. majority of the pakis will get mad.... indians channels got banned, the people complained so much... how can he stop the media when the people r so used to see such things...ofcourse it shud b baneed, a Muslim country means no dances , no music.. but the Muslims here dont want it, so what can the Government do.. when the people will condemn it individually on a broader scale then something can come out of it....

kashmir koi dispute nahi hai.. thats an most odd statement. since 50 years its a dispute... untill and unless india wants, this issue cant b solved.

[fati 0]

salamz

ofcourse u have ur own thoughts and that r different with mine.. but v both want the samethign that is peace... v r just looking things and pople thru different aspects and thats not a big deal.

i have mentioned i nmany of my posts thatm usharaf isnt a perfect guy ofcourse.. but he iss better than the previous ones.. and what he did better , i m supporting him for that.. and its not u i m just talking about, the people around me,, colleagues in colleges they r against him becoz they were in favour of nawaz and musharaf isnt punjabi thats y. they dont have anyother reason for that...

u r to an extent right.. that v shud support the muslims.. magar mulim bhi aik muslim ka dushman hota... fight doston ke liya kiya jata hai.. jis na kabhi humain support na kiya hum us ke liya jaan ki bazi kayun lagain.. aur ai kaur baat.. jihad ka hukum hai.. magar us waqt nahi jab ap ke ghar ap ki maan bimar pari ho.. v r not a developed country... kiya hai humaray pass.. gurbat aur iflas.. is halat main hum dosron ko support kaisay karein.. jab apnay pass kuch nahi.

these were the words of america that they'll turn pak into desert in case of any rejection... and everyone knows what america is... ALLAH bhi madad un ki karta hai jo khud apni madad kartay hain.. Government ki baat to baadm ain ati hai... humari country kitnay sachay mulims hain ke koi mojaza ho jata aur america na koi nuksan pohachata aur hum afghanistan ki madad bhi kar daitay.. ya iran tu nahi hai.. ke jab america na attack kiya tu tufan chalna shuru ho gaya.

afghansitan ne tu humara sath kahi diya hi nahi.. un se expect kia karna.. but v have good cordial relations with iran... iran is in such a position to oppose america... although they arent a nuclear power but they have faith.. each and every individual has it... they always supprt the right thing.

wohi baat a gayi na... yahan america mang li jaiy oppose kia jata hai.. what is al qaida doing everywhere... aik american ko maro karo main tumhain lakhon dollar don ga... is this what u call humanity... ya khudkush humlay kiya hain... islam main kisi bhi aspect se ya jaiz nahi hain... magar ya alqaida ke banda her jaga yahi kar rahay hain.. kiya ya sab sahi hai.... kiya is ke liya un ko supprt kiya jaiy?

[rukh 25]

THANX arrbia for agree wid me

FATI yeah ur right ..that ve both want to somethin that is peace

main YEH nahi keh rahee MUSHARAAF nahi kuch nahi kia ..os nai kafi kam kia hai ..lakin baz aisay HARM FULL decision leye hain jis ki WAJHA SAI PAKISTAN bohat NAZUK stage per aa chuka hai ...

sub sey pehlay MUSHARAF GHAIR QANOONE TOR PER AIK WAQT MAIN DO UHDOON PER FAIZ HAIN ..1 PRESDENT 2 CHIEF OF ARMY STAFF

INSAN AIK WAQT MAIN AIK HEE UHDA KO SANBHAL SAKTA HAI

GHAIR QANOONE TOR PER MUSHARAF NAI USA FORCES KO APNAI MULK KAI HADDOD ISTIIMAL KERNAI KI IJAZAT DEE

APNAI MULK MAIN INTERFERENCE KI IJAZAT DEE

JUB MULK KA PRESEDENT KHUD QANOON TORAY GA TO AWAM KA KIA HAL HO GA

SAUDIA ..QUAIT OR WOH MUSLIM COUNTRIES JINHOO NAI USA FORCES KO APNI MULK MAIN ANAY KI AJZAT DEE AJJ UN KA KIA HAL HAI ? WOH SIRF AIK KATH PUTLEE BAN CHUKAY USA KAI HATOON

BARSAGHIR MAIN JUB MUGHAL MUSLIMZ KI HAKUMAT THEE OS WAQT INDIA EAST COMPANY KI NAM SAI BRITISH GOV NAI HINDUSTAN MAIN APNI QADAM JAMANA SHROO KEYE ..PEHLAY SIF BUISNEES MATTER PHIR POORE HAKUMAT UN KAY HATH MAIN CHALEE GAYEE

AJJ SAI PEHLAY TAK USA KO SIRF APNI LEY DI KHTRAY THAY

1 MUJHADEEN

2 PAKISTAN ..COZ PAKISTAN WAS ONE OF THE MUSLIM COUNTRY JIS PER HAMLA KERNA KOI ASAN YA AMM BAT NAHI HO SAKTEE THEE..OR AB AISA KUCH NAHI USA GOV APNA KAM KER CHKEE HAI

PEHLKAY BAHAN THA AFGANISTAN

AB DEHSHAT GARDEE

KAL KOI OR

PER AB WOH YAHAN SAI JANAY WALAY NAHI .

AJJ PAKISTAN KO IS STAGE PER POHNCHAY WALOON MAIN SUB SAY AGAY MUSHARAF HAI ...

KAFFIR KABHI MUSLMANOOKAI SATH WAFA DAR NAHI HO SAKTAY OR YEH BAT MAIN NAHI ..QURAN ...KEHTA HAI ...ager hamrat presednt ko islam ki zara samjh boojh hotee to woh aisa hamqat kai faislay nahi kertay

SORA NISA MAIN HAI ....KAFROON KO HAQ HASIL NAHI KAI KAY WOH MUSLMANOO PER HAQ-WILAYAT HSIL KERAIN ..yanee woh HAKIM banai

or HAMARY PRESDENT nai kia kia ? USA force ko hum per nafiz ker diya

in POLITICIONS ka kuch nahi jata ..yeh to DORSY MULKOON main ja ker PANAH lay laytay hain ..PAISAjama kertay hain or bus..in ko is bat say gherznahi IN KAI AJJ KAI FASILAY KAL HAMRAY MULK kai ley kia mushkilat haree kerain gay

MUSHARAAF NAI ARMY KO EXTRA ORDINEROY FACAILTIES sirf is ley dee hain takay woh APPNAI ley JITNAjama ker sakta hai ker lay

werna MULK ki hifazt sirf ARMY hee nahi kertee dosree FORCES BHI HAIN

OR yeh bat kehna PAKISTAN KA QERZ UTER RAHA HAI ...siawye mazaq kai kuch nahi

mujhai batain kis hakumat main yeh propagenda nahi hoa ..

haan jub uter jayee tub bat karain

[fati 0]

but rukh.. the judges gave their decision in his favour... and i think sometimes v need ammendments...

jab president nai ijazat de di to wo against law to nahi hoa.. moreover its the requirement of the present condition of pk.

u must b knowing how china progressed... they were cutoff from the world.. they did everything on their own... if v have the courage to do that... v wont b asking for help from others... entry of american forces isnt a good thing but i dont know about their entry much.. so cant say.. anyways i like to clear it.. thnx for a point

aik baat tu clear hai.. america is establihing routes towards us... afghanistan, iraq, iran and ultimately pakistan...... she is not gonna leave any muslim country.

musharaf ne army ko extra facilities de hain... facilties tu pehlai bhi theen magar ab mazeed barha di hain.. right.. but i wont like to predict that he is gathering money for himself.

right army srf nahi akrti.. but in a non war period responsibilities lie on army... army is always there is case of any calamitie... so its not right to degrade them..

ho sakta hai ya mazak ho... magar filhal mujhay mazak nahi lagta.. thats y .. i wont say it for sure.

ya in every gov such propaganda was made.. right.. but just on the basis of the previous governments u cant condemn the present one... therefore i m not condemning.. i just hoping for the vest.. indeed v r hoping for the best! and inshallah v will have the best one day!

[cooooolll 0]

well well well my dear rukh ! i just saw all of ur replies .....don't know y u r tryin to impose this idea of urs on us that alqaeda and osama r dead right and their so called mission is helping Muslims and Islam......but u know what u didn't read my previous reply fully......if u had done so ......u might ve had answers to many of ur questions.....now coming bak to the the point that u made , that mission thing of Alqaeda.... as u know osama was american agent.....worked for CIA......who knows may be he is still american agent!... bcoz whatever he's doing is damaging Islam and Muslims........Now do u reallllllllyyyyy think he is a MUJAHID???? Do u know the definition of MUJAHID??? Do u know Osama and mulla omer and party had luxury cars ?? and ve u seen Mulla Omer's castle? and have u seen the sufferings of Afghanis .....the ppl of Afghanistan they don't have anything to eat and their rulers r enjoying their lives......and the one who tried to speak against them ....didn't see the sun of the next morning

and now by calling osama a mujahid u r damaging those who r fighting against Indian army in the paradise on earth i.e Kashmir.....u see this is a real struggle ....a struggle for freedom!....they r not killing innocent ppl ...they r fighting against an army!

We all know what happened in Aghanistan.......UR MUJAHID mr. osama where was he when those cruel americans were killing innocent afghanis?? may i know what were ur feelings when u saw dead little children on ur tv or in newspapers?

u see its very easy to perform such terrorist activites but to face an army is not an easy task.......pehlay jung shuru ker li phir chup gaya .....kya aisay hotay hain mujahid

sorry sorry frnds i don't ve much time.....baaqi agli episode mein ;) :D

[fati 0]

that was easy to read :).. writing episodes is good...

[rukh 25]

COOL APP KI EPISODE to aye nahi abhi tak ..main apni episode shroo ker doon :D

mani app ki app prv post bohat achay tareeqay say perhee ...

MUJAHID KI DEFFINATION MAIN JANTEE BHI HOON PR MANTE BHI

AFGHANISTAN MAIN JIS TERHA BAY GUNNAH AWAM MAREE GAYEE ...UN KAI LEY APNI FEELINGS MAIN APP KO NAHI SAMJH SAKTEE

KASHMEER OR JAHAN JAHAN MUSLMAN ZULM SAI LER RAHAY HAIN

WOH SUB MUJAHID HAIN

SO OSAMA OT MULLA UMMER APP KAI KIYAL MAIN MAZAY KER RAHAY THAY JUN AFGHANISTAN MAIN BAY GUNAAH LOG MER RAHAY THAY

ACHA TO PHIR WOH KON LOG THAY JO LER RAHAY THAY ? WOH KON LOG THAY JINHOON NAY WAHAN KI AWAM KO WEAPONS DEYE ...

JUB KAI AFGHANISTAN KAI SATH US WAQT KOI BHI NAHI THA

MULLA UMMER KA CASTEL APP NAI DEKHA ..CARS BHEE DEKH LEE..

LAKIN APP NAI YEH NAHI DEKHA AFGHANISTAN KI OSAMA NAI FINANCIAL KITNEE HELP KI HAI ....OR MAIN APP KO TAFSEELAT BATA SAKTEE HOON AGER APP SUNNA CHAHAO TO ?

OSAMA NAI KIA JANG SHROO KI ? JAHAN KOI HAMLA HOTA HAI ALQAIDA NAI KARAYA HAY OSAMA NAI KIA HAI ... R KEHNAI WALAY KON HAI AMERICA OR AMERICANS PETS ..

OR APP YAQEEN KER LAYTAY HAIN BAGHIR KOI INVESTIGATE KEYE ?

AGER OSAMA NA HOTA YA ALQAIDA NA HOTA TO KIA AFGHANISTAN PER HAMLA NA HOTA?

HAQEEQAT DEKHAIN HAQEEQAT SAMJHAIN .....

IRAQ MAIN KON SA OSAMA THA JO WAHAN HAMLA HOA ?

PHILPINE MAIN KON SA OSAMA HAI JO WAHAN ISRAIL NAI SHOR MAHAYA HAI ?

OSAMA ..BELONG RICH FAIMLY ..OSSAY KI ZAROORAT HAI KAI DESERT MAIN BETH KER KHUAREE KERAY ..APNAI APP KO ISHTEHAREE MUJRIM BANAYEE? NA PAISAI KI KAMMI HAY US KAI PASS NA KISSI OR KI

OSAMA WAS NOT AMERICAN AGENT ....AMERICA NAI PEHLAY KHUD APNI MUFAD KAI LEY OSAMA KO SUPPORT KIA KAI RUSIA KO KHTUM KER SAKAY ..

OR AJJ OSAMA WOHEE KAM US KAI KHILAF KER RAHA HAY TO USA NAI US KO DEHSHAT GERD BANA DIYA ......!

[cooooolll 0]

bus yehi sun na tha aap say .....so u support al qaeda and think whatever they r doing is right?? wah wah wah.......kya khaaaaak help ki hai uss nay???? jab B52 bomber ( american plane) carpet bombing ker kay innocent civilians ko maar raha tha tab kahan tha yeh osama????? kyun chup gaya?? kya khaaaak hathayar diye thay iss nay.... woh hathayar kis nay banaye thay ?? russian yaa american he thay na..... hum logon nay khud kiya kya hai?? aaj tak in political leaders (molvee) nay baaton aur mulk mein fasaad phailaanay k ilawa kiya kya hai??? jab dekho shiyaa suni fasaad .....aik dusray ko maar rahay hain.......aur banay phirtay hain Islam k mamay!.....Islam ko apni marzi kay mutabik banaye phirtay hain.....in ka Islam sirf aurat say shuru hota hai aur aurat per he khatam hojata hai.... Islam mein aur bhi bohat kuch hai.....siwaye kuch aalims k baaqi sub apni apni maar rahay hain.....aur woh aalims sayasi leader nahin!

aur tum nay kis aalim ko yeh kehtay suna hai keh alqaeda jo ker rahi hai woh theek hai?? kya masoom logon ko maarna theek hai? kya Islam yehi sikhata hai? jo maen nay apnay previous reply mein baat quote ki thee .....jo karnamay alqaeda nay saranjaam diye hain......jo dehshat gardi ki hai inhon nay ...sub jagah kis ko nuqsaan hua?? ISLAM ko aur musalmaanon ko! aur tum bani phirti ho un ki himmayati......tumhain kya pata hai haan?? kya jaanti ho tum ?

yeh tum jo kuch bhi keh rahi ho theek nahin .....aur tumhain pata nahin keh tum kitna galat keh rahi ho......tum kya chahti ho ....pakistan ka bhi afghanistan wala haal ho? tumhara osama barrhkain maaray ....1 , 2 dhamakay keray aur phir chup jaye aur shamat pakistanion ki ajaye?? ....agar larrna hai to american army say kyun nahin larrta??

osama was a CIA agent .....and who knows he still is ....and is working for usa ....thats y he is damaging ISLAM and Muslims....he's giving america an oppertunity to attack the Muslim world!

mera khayal hai keh ab aap hawaee baatain nahin kerain gee aur haqeeqat ko tasleem kerain gee......

aap yahan kisi ko apni yeh baat nahin manwa sakti keh alqaeda jo bhi ker raha hai theek ker raha hai atleast mujhay aur fati ko nahin

so shayad ab iss discussion ko khatam he ker dena chahiye jab aap nay maan na he kuch nahin ....

YA'ALLAH hum sub ko seedha aur sahi raasta dikha aur achay buray ki pehchaan farma.....YA'ALLAH Pakistan ko ta qayamat salamat rakh aur kufaar aur Islam kay dushmano ko tabah o barbaad farma

(Ameen)

[Mudassar 0]

Aaaj Mr wajpayee aa rahay hain Islamabad main.. poora Isalamabad main koi nai jaa sakta..

Main bhi nahi :)

Edited January 4, 2004 by Mudassar

[rythm 0]

haw :o

Mobby apko nai janay de rahay islamabad main?

ok <_< to main bhi nai jaoongi..

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[pakistani 0]

salam !!!

i was not thinking ke me iss post me kuch kahoon ga but just one thing Mr. cool be cool dont be so rude with anyone if you ever wana say something than proove it with logics dont be rude with members specialy girls i just want to say aap ne kaha u dont know anything its mean you only you knows everything about world and about Islam too so if you are believer and you know all about Islam than wat are you doing i am serious me tanz nahee ker rehaa wye you dont tell ppl that what is Islam and who is right and who is wrong theek hay ikhtalaf apni jagah mujhay Miss Rukh ke iss baat se ikhtalaf hay ke Musharaf ne 2 ohday kiun rekhay howe hain jab ke yeh Islamic history se proof hay ke humaray khulfa hukmaran ke ssath saath masjid-e nabwi ke khateeb bhe they or sipah salar bhee hum iss qanoon ko nahee mantay jo ke christians ka banaya howa hey Islamic qanoon me jaiz hey 2 designations per kaam kerna

jahan tak baat hay alqida or usama ko dahshat gard or musalmanoo ka dushman qarar denay kee to aap jo statistics bata rehay hain woh sab BBC or CNN kee hain kuch eisaee haqeeqat bhe biyan kerain or kuch eisee batain bhee samnay laein jo in amirican media ke ilawa hoon aap baqi sab chorain Pakistani ya muslim writers ko chorain aap non official american writers ko hee quote kerain karistina lamb jis ne bohat arsa afghanistan me guzara or jis kee usama or mula umer se bohat detail me baat howee jis ne kae baar in ke interview kiye ussay perhain khuda ke liye janab america kee zuban moon se nikal dain me ne eik post me bhee kaha hey ke jihad me faida or nuqsan nahee dekha jata Alah per bherosa ker ke jo waqat ke hisab se sahee nazar aa reha ho woh kiya jata hey

or haan aap Islamic history na perhna kabhee bhee yeh na ho ke usay perh ker aap hazrat khalid bin waleed or hazrat umer hazrat saad bin waqas in sab ko bhee dahshat gard na qarar de dain jaisa ke americans kehtay hain

[Rana_Bilal 0]

what do u mean ariba.. that its broken by Musharaf. wow.. u mean to say that musharaf planned death ... he wanted to die.. u must b kidding

ariba koi itna bewaqoof nahi k apne app per hamla kerwaye

aor wo bhi remot controlled

ye jo app keh rahi hoo na ye kai loogoo ka kehna hia lakin ye teek nahi hi zehan is ko tasleem kerta hai

ok

Think broading my dear

[rukh 25]

WELL PAKISTNAI I WANT TO ASK ONE THING

U SAID ISLAMIC HISOTORY SAI SAI SABIT HAI KAI KHALUFA NAI BAIK WAQT DO UHDAY SANBAHALY ...LET ME KNOW ONE THING VERY CLEAR

MUSHARAF SAID ..AB KHALAFT KA DOR NAHI ..ITS MEAN KAI WOH UN RULES OR REGULATION SAY AGREE NAHI JO KHALAFT MAIN THAI

JUB APP OR KOI KAM KHALFAT KAI ACCORDING NAHI KER RAHAY TO SIRF WOHEE BAT JO APP KAI MUFAD MAIN HAI KAISAI LAY SAKTAY HAIN ??

IS WAQT PAK LAWS MAIN KISI KO YEH IKHTYAR NAHI KAI WOH BAIK WAQT DO UHADOON PER RAHAY

WELL ..MUSHRAFF NAI AB KHUD KEG DIYA HAI WOH BOHAT JALD ARMAY SAI RESIGN DAY DAIN GAY ..LET SEE KUB APNI BAT PER AMMAL KERTAY HAIN !

[pakistani 0]

Asalamu Alikum

Well aap yeh na samjhain ke me president Musharaf kee himayat ker rehaa hoon lakin iss se pehlay bhee humaray hukmaran apnay pass do ohday rekhtay aae hain Mian Nawaz sharif ne defence ministory apnay pass rekhee thee Mohterma khud nahee rekhtee theen lakin unhoo ne apnay shoher ko kaee wizartain de rekhee theen uss se pehlay General Zia sahib bhee eik waqat me chirf of Army staff or president they uss waqat kisi ne nahee kuch kaha lakin general pervaiz musharaf ke peechay per gae sab jab ke Gov ke khilaf lernay ke liye or bolnay ke liye ior bhee bohat kuch hay me or kisi kee baat nahee kerta i damn care ke General sahib eik ohday per rehay 2 per ya kisi ko ohda na dain sab ohday apnay pass rekhain i care ke mehngaee kam ho i care ke molana azam tariq ke qatil arrest hoon mulk me jo bomb blast ho rehay hain woh na ho kashmir per soday bazi na ho petrol kee qeemat roz beroz asman se batain na keray kisi perhay likhay banday ko Pakistan ka Prime minister banaya jae Mohterma Fatima jinah ke body guard ko nahee bank or mulk lootnay walay ch shujat ko king maker kiun banaya giya or bhee bohat se eisay siyasi or ikhlaqi batain aisee hain jin koissu banaya jaa sakta thaa pata nahee do ohdoon ke peechay kiun per gae kisi eisay issu ko kiun nahee pakera jis se aam admi kee bhalaee ho aam aadmi ko kiya lagay ke kis ke pass kitnay ohday hain aam admi ko apni social life me relax chahiye bus

Regards

[fati 0]

everybody is right at his own place. and pakistani i agree with u.

agar musharaf do ohday rukhtay hain and its for the benefit of the country.. so its ok

aik baat main kahoun. aur shaid ap main se bohat ko bohat buri lagay.. shaid ya shaid nahi.

islam main bohat se fiqay hain.. magar wo sab muslims hain... sunni hain, shia hain, wahabi hain.. aur bohat se hain... magar jo ya kehta hai ke hum in ko muslims nahi mantay .. ya qatal ker dainay ke qabil hain.. chahay ya sunni kahay ya shia... wo achay muslims nahi ho saktay.. aur ya azam tariq ke alfaz hain.. beshal ke katilon ko girftar hona chahiyay... beshak ke deshatgrdi khtam honi chahiya.. magar aisay logon per bhi control hona chahiya.

[pakistani 0]

Thanx Fati

Islam me bohat se firqay hain hum in per bilkul baat nahee kertay hum as a whole baat ker rehay hain Pakistan me chahhay kisi ka bhee murder ho lakin eik Islamic tanzeeem ka serberah or eik political leader ager hum yeh kahain ke molana Azam Tariq shia hazrat ko qatal kertay they to qatal to unka bhee ho giya or ho sakta hay ke kisi shia bhai ne hee kiya ho kisi musalman per qatal ka fatwa itni asani se nahee lagaya jaa sakta iss per pehlay hee Islam section me bohat baat ho chukee hay

baat kernay ka maqsad sirf yeh thaa ke bohat se doosray issues bhee hain sawae iss ke ke eik eisay issue ko uthaya jae jis me aam admi ka koi faida nahee mehngaee bohat bera issue hay iss ke ilawa bhee bohat se isues hain lakin MMA sirf general sahib kee werdi hee uterwanay ke cheker me hain

Farz kerain ke general sahib eik ohda chore bhee detay hain to kiya faraq peray ga president to same hee rehay ga kiya tabdeeli aa jae gee ? iss per baat ker laitay hain ke farz kerain General sahib ne Army chor dee new Chief of Army staff ne position le lee or General sahib Sirf President rah gae phir kiya ho ga kiya changes aaein geee?

Regards

[fati 0]

Pakistani.. mainne ya tu nahi akha ke un ka qatal sahi tha. unhon ne qatal kiya tu un ka bhi murder ho jata... nobody should take law in hand.. even if he wants to take it against a corrupt person.. musalman ho ya non muslim.. yon qatal ker daina tu hai hi galat....

aur wardi ki behs tu bekar hai. i find it to b a useless thing. a lame issue.. not indeed an issue... big issuesl ike u mentioned r yet to solve. and it require years to do so... the good citizens always hope for some good :)

[Asim 0]

I agree wid u both.... one should not play with Laws

but fati.. let me clear one thing...... Islam main koi firqa nahi..... Islam is Islam.... ye firqae wagaira tu 1996 se ziada suru hai hain.....

agar koi mujh se poochae ka mera firqa kya hai tu main ye hi kahoon ga ke mera firqa wo hai jo Hazrat Muhammad Sallal Aho Alaihe Wasalam ka tha..... (aap ka koi firqa nahi tha.... us waqt Islam was pure)

Islam ka matlab hai... seedha raasta

firqae ka matlab hai... shortcut (urdu main)

just tell meif u r on the right path that goes straigh.....no turns no bends... thn how can u make a shortcut out of it?

Its impossible....

I will post a detailed topic on this firqa wariat soon....

Asim