goldenpk 0 Posted July 12, 2003 Kya Koye Ghosts Pr Believe Krta hay Hay???Ksee Ney Dekha Hay?????? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sidd 0 Posted July 12, 2003 yeah it exist but i ididnt ever saw it In love S I D D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Waqas 48 Posted July 13, 2003 Jinat are also creation of Allah but i havent seen any yet Waqas Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asim 0 Posted July 13, 2003 Ghosts does exist. its even proved from the Holy Qura'n Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tabu 0 Posted July 13, 2003 I believe in ghosts 'n dey do exsist.. even sayz so in da HOLY QU'RAN! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shabo 0 Posted July 13, 2003 As Waqas, Asim & Tabu mentioned ghostr r a creation of Allah and they r talked about in the Quran hence we must believe in their existance.... but I would'nt like to meet any!!! Sx Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tabu 0 Posted July 13, 2003 As Waqas, Asim & Tabu mentioned ghostr r a creation of Allah and they r talked about in the Quran hence we must believe in their existance.... but I would'nt like to meet any!!!  Sx neither do I!!! :( otha wize I might be seein' em often! :P Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amen 0 Posted July 13, 2003 well erm.......what can i say well no doubt in it ghost exisit and this is true but i have a question that most of ppl have seeen ghost in their life be4 is it their disease or is it true that we can see ghosts well so if we can why not all of us why is it happens to few ppl that they see ghosts and is this true that ghosts can live in our body .....well most of the ppl say that any person who use ta see strange things like "hearing voices! seein strange things around etc"has a desease and that desease is called SCHIZOPHRENIA !!!!!! wat do u say!!!!!! yours admirer amen arif Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fati 0 Posted July 16, 2003 i think in quran jinn have been mentioned. where is the description about ghosts. can u people tell me so i may read it. . jinnat do exist. can anyone define ghost. hey deadman. what r u?/// Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asim 0 Posted July 17, 2003 most of ppl have seeen ghost in their life be4 is it their disease or is it true that we can see ghosts well so if we can why not all of us why is it happens to few ppl that they see ghosts jinnat (Ghosts) do exist and they are also free to choose either the right path or the path of Shaitan (Devil). Some jinnat who choose the path of shitaan tends to tease humans. they only select some of them not every1. thus only few (who are victums of jinnat) can see them is this true that ghosts can live in our body I can't answer this one. Sorry. well most of the ppl say that any person who use ta see strange things like "hearing voices! seein strange things around etc"has a desease and that desease is called SCHIZOPHRENIA !!!!!! Haring voices and seeing strange acts are also part of the same campaign that these evil jinnat are running against selected humans. Question Is there any cure for this? Yes there is. Whosoever says his/her prayers regularly five times a day will not be affected by evil jinnat. The place where Qura'n is recited will never be haunted by jinnat. Holy Prophet (SAW) taught us the way to get rid of jinnat by reciting the last two soora's of the holy Qura'n thrice b4 going to bed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asim 0 Posted July 17, 2003 sorry fati. I don't have enuf knowledge to answer ur questionz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fati 0 Posted July 17, 2003 u wrote enough. good work my point was that, jinnat exists, there r nothing like ghosts! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shabo 0 Posted July 17, 2003 A clear and consice explanation Asim... bravo Thanks!! Fati.. the definition of ghost is; spirit of a dead person. Sx Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meeri 0 Posted July 17, 2003 Hi every1! well......... i know much abt jinnats. Humans r called Bashar while ghosts or goblins r called jinn. the word bashar means "open (zaahir)" and the word jinn means "hidden (chupa hua)". actually, jinns r not spirits of any human being. b4 the creation of Father Adam AS, this earth was given to the jinns. but these no good creatures spread chaos on this world by killing each other and making this earth as hell. One day, Allah sent an army of angels which bit them to the fringe of the lands i.e. islands, seas, deserts. After that Allah created Adam and the angels said that the humans r gonna spread chaos too. y dont u send us to live there? we r ur obedient. But Allah wanted to establish this earth. However, these jinns r still present and according to ahadeeth, a ghost is borned with the birth of each child. i dont want to go in detail abt its birth coz i would've to break the boundaries of confidential talks. :) Abt jinns, we cannot see them in their real structure. However, we can see them if they disguise themselves as a human. According to one hadeeth, The sign of the disguised jinn is that (it is mostly in the form of a woman and) its eyes r very much beautiful. one should not stare to it coz they r the evil ones to harm human beings and they can harm oneself only by watching. I remember the story of Sheikh Hafiz Abdurrehman Makki who is the second leader of Mujahideen... un par Hindus nay jaadoo kya tha aur woh aik din hotel main baithay thay aur un kee meeting ho rahee thee k achanak un kee nazar paree k saath table par aik bohot hee khoobsoorat aurat baithee huee thee. woh daikh kar hairan he ho gaay k itna hussun to unhon nay kabhee naheen diakha tha laikin achanak un ko khyal aaya k woh to Islam k munafee baat karrahay hain k aik aisee aurat ko daikh rahay hain jis k face cuts aur aankhain bohot he ziada khoobsoorat... unhon nay foran apnee chair ko turn kardya aur un kee peeth us aurat kee taraf ho gaee. aglay din jab un k ghar walon nay aamil bulwa kar jin pakarwaay to unhon nay yeh waqya bataya tha aur kehnay lagay k agar woh us jin ko daikhtay rehtay to woh jinnee un ka chehra jala daitee. it seems to b fairy tales but Makki sahab didnt tell any1 abt that story. woh to jinon nay baad main bataya to unhon nay bataya k haan aisa he hua tha. pehlay to woh yaqeen itna naheen kartay thay laikin ab un ko in cheezon par yaqeen aana shuroo ho gya hay. There is too much info i like to give u abt this topic. jinnat ko daikh to koi naheen sakta un kee asal shakal main laikin un kee awaz sun saktay hain. agar woh kisee k under hon to woh us banday kee zaban main he boltay hain laikin aawaz maain thora sa farq aajata hay aur aawaz aggressive ho jatee hay. ulma k nazdeek to yeh shak-o-shuba walee baat hay k jin insaan k undar chala jaata hay laikin bohot say is haqeeqat ko maantay hain kyoon k is ka bohot practical hona shuroo ho gya hay. jin insaan k undar jadoo k zareeay say aatay hain ya khud bhee aasaktay hain aur ussay bachnay k tareeqay khud Hazoor SAW nay bataay hain. Asim sahab, jis jaga par Quran parha jaata hay wahan to bohot ziada aanay k chances hotay hain laikin aap kee baat saheeh hay k woh jo do soortain hain un say jinnat bhaag jaatay hain. jinnat ziada tar jadoo k zareeay he daakhil hotay hain. woh mukhtalif shaklon main hotay hain.kuch jaanwaron kee shakal main bhee hotay hain. kuch bandar k jaisay hotay hain. us kee nishanee yeh hotee hay k mareez k haath kaanptay hain aur un main taaqat bohot aajatee hay. jin saanp kee shakal main bhee hotay hain. jinnat insaan main lambay nails k zareeay, lambay aur khulay baalon k zareeay etc. daakhil hojatay hain. Hazoor SAW nay kuch tareeqay bataay hain jissay hum apnay aap ko jinnat ka shikar bannay say mehfooz rakh saktay hain. lambay naakhun rakhnay say mana farmaya hay. aurton ko baal khol kar bahar nikalnay say mana farmaya hay. raat ko darakht k saay k neechay baithnay say bhee mana kya hay. koi haddee ya khorak zameen par paree ho to ussay door rehnay ka hukam dya hay kyoon k woh un kee khorak hotee hay. aik martaba Hazoor SAW k aik sahabee ko jinon nay qatal kardya tha aur us k baad aakar bataya k hum nay un ko is lyay qatal kya hay kyoon k unhon nay humaray ghar par pishab kya tha. us k baad hazoor SAW nay yeh sab baatain bataeen. bathroom jinnat kaa sab say bara markaz hay. yeh bathrooms main sab say ziada hotay hain kyoon k un kee khorak he woh gand hota hay. isy lyay bathroom main daakhil honay kee dua yeh hay k "Allahumma innee a'oozu bika minal khubusi wal khabaa'is" meaning= Ay Allah! main tairee pana chahta hoon un khabees jin aur jinnyon say Jinnat bohot he baiwaqoof tabqa hay. jo jinon ka sardar hota hay woh insaan k das saal k bachay k barabar hota hay. un kee bohot he thoree aqal hotee hay. jinnat main bhee mukhtalif mazahib k hotay hain. kuch jinnat insaanon say Quran parhtay hain. kuch jews hotay hain aur kuch nasranee (christians). isy tarah Hindu bhee hotay hain. sab say badtareen jews hotay hain aur woh sab say ziada takleef pohonchatay hain. jinnat agar non-muslims hon to un ko muslim bhee banaya jaasakta hay. un say baat karnay k lyay insaan ko bohot polite, humble aur achay tareeqay say baat karnee chahyay. kyoon k woh khar dimagh hotay hain. jinnat main kuch darpok bhee hotay hain. aur jinnat jo insaan k under gya hua ho woh jaadoo garon k mulazim hotay hain aur un ko jaadoo garon say bohot dar lagta hay kyoon k woh un ko qatal bhee kar daaltay hain. agar jinnat main koi baghawat karta hay to woh sab us ko qatal kardaytay hain. I will tell u an interesting story of Sheikh Bin Baaz who has mentioned it in his book which is translated in Urdu named as "Jaadoo ka Ilaj". i will tell u in the next post. I think this much information is enough for now. Next is Rest :) Hope u might b getting too much bored :) i also didnt believe in such things but now i had to coz i've seen these cases around me. anyway, if some1 has any objections, i'm ready to solve ;) fati> i liked ur question......... "deadman, what r u?" :P :D PS: In Sura Zaaryat, Allah the Almighty said: "wama khalaqtul jinnna wal insa illa lya'budoon" meaning: "And neither i created jinns and humans but to worship Me" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ariba 0 Posted July 17, 2003 SALAM Main ne kabhi koi jin nahin diakha.lakin mujhay dar bhi nahin lagta. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fati 0 Posted July 18, 2003 now the professor is here. u know what meeri, i cant agree with u in religious opinions.lol u said them as no good creatures. well gonna tell u one thing. jinn achay bhi hotay hain. hazrat salman ki hukumat jinnon per thi aur un main sa bohat achay thay. aur jahan quran parha jata hay waha achay jinn to a saktay hain magar kabhi bhi buray jinn nahi a saktay .agar quran achi neeyat ke sath parha jaiy to. jinn un jaghon per rehtay hain jahan insani abadi bohat kum hoti hay. fullstop. BOL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meeri 0 Posted July 18, 2003 fati> i agree with u. jinn achay bhee hotay hain aur buray bhee laikin jo buray hotay hain un ko shaitan kehtay hain. so i said abt those satans that they r no good creatures. jahan quran parha jaata hay wahaan aatay to naheen hay laikin main apnay personal experience kee baat bata raha hoon k wahan phir jinn aanay shuroo ho jatay hain. ab yeh maaloom naheen k woh achay hotay hain ya buray jinnat un jaghon par ziada rehtay hain jahan aabadi kam hotee hay. laikin Saudi Arab e.g. Riyadh, wahan to bohot say jin hotay hain. yahan to bohot say log ilaj karwatay rehtay hain aur baqaida centres banay huay hain. makkah main bhee bohot jinnat hotay hain. ziada tar naik hotay hain. bahar haal.... u r also right ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fati 0 Posted July 18, 2003 main saudia nahi gayi is liya kuch keh nahi sakti. :) thnx! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
munnibhai 0 Posted July 18, 2003 Ghosts exist yaar! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bugs 0 Posted July 18, 2003 jins exist there is no doubt n i ahve seen ma self even one ,u c the game is when evr i c ma face in mirrior i c a jin :D . just kiddin well ghosts exist n they canb found evry wher only one have the eyes to c them,ub yeah aik scince hai keh aap kaisay jin deikh saktay hain.i luv jins meinay deikhay tu anhee lekin mujhe shoq hai keh deikhoon,yar woh bhi aik mukhlooq hai han kuch achay hain kuch buray hain ,lein inasan bhi tu aisay hi hotay hain achay or buray ,meray dost nay batay tha keh usnamy deikha tha jin mera driver bhi bata hai usnay kayee dufa deikhay hain,my old chokidar has also seens n ma grand ma told me that when ur wre sleepin there were a lot oj jins siitin around ya ,she saw them i was sleepin,kafee pehlay ki bat hai.gash i never saw them hulakeh woh meray sath bhetay thay mein so jo raha tha. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fati 0 Posted July 18, 2003 dont b so desperate to see a jinn bugs! they arent pretty. and cant say anything about the existence of ghosts. BOL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bugs 0 Posted July 18, 2003 jins r prety its just the mind which decide who is prety or not i can control it n i say jin r prety as they r creatures made by allah so who am i to say they r not pretty.luv evry onr evry thin u will b luved. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fati 0 Posted July 20, 2003 hey bugs everything is a creation of ALLAH but u cant say a lizard pretty! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bugs 0 Posted July 21, 2003 lol @ fati hahaha very funny jahan say aap keh rahein hain wahan say waqai mein apki juga hota tu lizard ko prety na kehta lekin bat itni si hai koi sumjhay ya sumjhay ,luv god creations n u will b luved. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fati 0 Posted July 21, 2003 i cant love a lizard, but surely its God creation. do respect every creation. and love humanity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites