Zaini 22 Posted December 28, 2010 Hmm bro ap bilkuil theak keh rahy hain ye log har bat main jawab main kuch na kuch aise bat kehty hain k ghusa aajata hai ........ last days ki baat hai meri aik shai sy baat ho rahi thi maine kaha k Quran main kahan matam ka zikar hai jo tum matam karty ho? aagay say jawab aaya k Quran main tou kahin b namaz parhnay ka tareeka nhi hai, maine Surah Al Imran ki Ayat ka tarjumay diye k parho isy tou aagay say ye kaha gaya k sub chori phlay mujhay is ka shan -e-nazool batoo, ap sahi keh rahy hain k in k jawab he ajeb hotay hain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BinteAadam 3 Posted September 6, 2011 Kia Main yahan Kuch Keh Sakti Hoon ?? Becuz Mai Meri Family Bhi Shea Thay Per Nt Now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BinteAadam 3 Posted September 6, 2011 Zaini Shea Hadrat Ki Bolti Unhi ki Book Se Band ki ja skati hai Arsa hua yeh log apni books se bhi cher char kerte aa rahay hain Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sho_shweet 657 Posted October 11, 2011 ahaaaaan,,, Bint e Adam detail b btaaen na k hm kis kis trah unhe yqeen dila skty haen??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abu_Hanzala 2 Posted March 11, 2012 Great going brothers and sisters, thank you for keeping this post alive and sharing facts about this fake religion.. JAZAKALLAH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
omar_khan 0 Posted May 4, 2012 onislam.net/english/news/asia-pacific/454620-little-makkahs-ready-indonesians-for-hajj.htmlhttp://www.onislam.net/english/news/asia-pacific/454620-little-makkahs-ready-indonesians-for-hajj.html ایرانی شیعہ نے ایران میں خانہ کعبہ بنایا ہے اب ان کے مسلمان کہلانے کے جھوٹے دعویٰ کا پول کھل کر سامنے آ گیا ہے۔ Agar aap thori se aqal use kertay to aap ko samajh aa jati k yeh sirf aik training camp hai jo hajion ko proper training deta hai aur aik picture mein aap uss company ka licence no. bhi dekh saktay hain,Hajj koi itna asaan fareeza nahi hai k pakistanion ki terha bas bag uthaya,ahraam pehna aur pohnch gaye hajj kernay balkeh iss k bohat se amaal hain aur amal ka proper kerna zaroori hota hai werna aap ka hajj nahi rehta aur yehi wajah hai k aik company hajion ko proper training denay k liye yeh camp lagati hai aur aap jaisay kam-aqal ussay kuch aur samajh ker uchalnay lag jatay hain... aur yeh sirf iran mein nahi hota balkeh indonesia mein bhi aisa hi hota hai k wahan bhi issi terha hi training di jati hai. www.onislam.net/english/news/asia-pacific/454620-little-makkahs-ready-indonesians-for-hajj.html Yeh article aap khud perh lein aur aap ko pata chal jaye ga k indonesia mein bhi issi terha khana kaaba bana ker trainig di jati hai aur iss mein ghalat hi kiya hai ?? aap kisi bhi islamic store per chalay jaein aap ko khana kaaba ka model her size mein mil jaye ga,wahan aap k kufr ka fatwa kahan chala jata hai ?? Indonesians per bhi aap kufr ka fatwa lagaein,aap iss liye nahi lagaein ge kiun k woh sunni hain :P Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
omar_khan 0 Posted May 4, 2012 Aap hazrat ayesha k baray mein kiya fatwa dein ge kiun k unhon ne bhi Rasool Allah saww ki wafaat per madina ki auraton k sath mil ker chehray per matam kiya ?? Admins how can i upload any scan page or picture in my post?? pls guide me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
omar_khan 0 Posted May 4, 2012 1. "Bad'ah"; ALLAH tells a lie. (Asool Kaafi, Vol. No.1, Page No. 148. A Shia doctrine.) Kis bewaqoof ne aap ko bata diya k badah ka matlab jhoot k hai ?? aur aap ko ilm bhi hai k aap k ulma bhi iss ka iqrar kertay hain k badaa ahl sunnah ka bhi aqeeda hai aur aqeeda e haq hai ?? Aik dafa mujhay pages upload kernay ki permission mil jaye phir mein aap ko woh fatwa bhi dikhaon ga jis se badaa ahl sunnah mein bhi jaiz aqeeda hai. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sho_shweet 657 Posted May 4, 2012 to jo hawala dia gaya hy kya wo ghalat hy?? check it out,, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
omar_khan 0 Posted May 4, 2012 to jo hawala dia gaya hy kya wo ghalat hy?? check it out,, Mein iss per baat hi nahi ker raha,mein ne aap se sirf itna pocha hai k hazrat ayesha ne bhi rukhsaron ko peeta to kiya yeh fatwa unn per bhi laagu ho ga ?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
omar_khan 0 Posted May 4, 2012 Hanzala Tum ne asool kafi ka ref. quote kiya aur kaha k badaa ka matlab jhoot k hai,yeh tumhari kam-ilmi hai aur jahan se tum ne yeh ref. copy kiya hai unn ki munafaqat k unhon ne tum loagon ko gumrah kernay k liye ghalat meaning likha :P badaa ka jo matlab ahl sunnah batatay hain,aap beshaq koi bhi arabic dictionary utha ker dekh lein aap ko kahein bhi badaa ka matlab jhoot nahi milay ga...badaa ka matlab hai apna irada tabdeel kerna ya apna irada zahir kerna k hai aur aap ko Quran mein bohat se aisay waqiyat mil jaein ge jo badaa hain...Surah Al araaf verse 142 ko aap perh lein jis mein Allah ferma raha hai k hum ne Moosa se 30 raaton ka wada kiya aur phir 10 raaton ka izafa ker diya,ab yeh 10 raaton ka izafa kiya ?? ab kiya aap yeh maanein ge k Allah ko khud bhi ilm nahi tha k woh 10 raaton ka izafa karay ga ?? nahi aisa nahi hai balkeh Allah her baat ko janta hai lakin Allah ne 10 raaton k irada ko hum per baad mein zahir kiya...Surah Yunus verse 98 perh lein uss mein Allah fermata hai hum jab Yunus ki qoam azaab aata dekh ker emaan le aaye to hum ne unn se azaab taal diya...ab yahan aisa nahi hai k Allah ko ilm hi nahi tha balkeh Allah ne apna irada tabdeel ker diya ya zahir ker diya,Hazrat Ibrahim a.s jab Hazrat Ismael a.s ko zibah ker rahay thay to achanak dumba aa gaya to uss ko aap kiya kahein gi ?? ya aik hadith bhi hai k Allah ne 50 namazon ko farz kiya magar Rasool Allah saww k baar baar darkhuwast kernay se Allah apna irada tabdeel kerta raha aur aakhir namazein 5 ho gaein...iss ko aap kiya kahein gi ?? yehi cheez badaa hai... Ab yeh aap k aqeeda ki famous fatawa book hai jis mein badaa k baray mein pocha gaya aur aap khus se jawab bhi perh sakti hain k unhon ne kaha k badaa aqeeda e haq hai aur sath mein unhon ne sahih bukhari ki aik hadith ka ref. bhi diya...kiya abhi bhi aap humein hi ghalat kahein gi ?? masla yeh hai k sites per alfaz k ghalat meanings likh ker aap jaisay loagon ko gumraah kiya jata hai jab k kisi bhi aalim ne aaj tak badaa ka matlab jhoot nahi likha agar aap kahein to mein aap k ahl sunnah ki aik dictionary se bhi badaa ka matlab bata sakta hoon jis ka naam lughaat ul hadith hai...ab jab k Aqeeda badah tumhari book se bhi sabit ho gaya hai to agar tum iss aqeeda per hum per kufr ka fatwa lagatay ho to mujhay batao k phir tum kaisay musalman ho gaye Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
omar_khan 0 Posted May 4, 2012 2. All Imams are equal in rank and status to Prophet Muhammad (s.a.w.w). (Asool Kaafi, Vol. No. 1, Page No. 270) Ab tum khud hi perh lo apni books mein kiya likha hai ?? Kiya yahan nahi likha k Imam Mehdi a.s baaz anbiya se afzal hain ?? Ab agar hamara aqeeda kufr hai to tum kon se musalman rahay ho apnay aqeeda mein Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
omar_khan 0 Posted May 4, 2012 3. There are seventeen thousand Ayah in real Quran. (Al Shafi, Vol. No. 2, Page No. 616) Kiya aap bilkul aisay hi alfaz Al shafi mein dikha saktay hain ?? Kiun jhooti sites se copt paste ker k khud bhi gumrah ho rahay ho aur dosron ko bhi ker rahay ho ?? Iss ka matlab yeh hai k Quran mein total ayaat 17000 nazil huin yeni baaki ayaat mansookh hoti rahein waqt k sath,yeh kahin nahi kaha gaya k mojooda Quran mein bhi 17000 ayaat hi thein... Ab Mein ne aap ki Quran ki tafseer Al Itteqan k pages upload kiye hain jis k writer aap k imam jalal ud din sayuti hain... Pehlay page mein unhon ne likha hai k hazrat umer kehtay thay k Quran k 1 million 27000 haroof hain aur jo inhain perhay ga ussay Allah her harf k badla mein aik hoor de ga,ab aap mujhay batao k kiya waqai quran mein ab itnay haroof hain jitnay hazrat umar ne bataye ?? Ab dosray page per kafi baatein bataye gaye hain,ibn umar ne kaha k jo shaks yeh kahay k mein ne sara Quran akhaz ker liya hai to woh ghalat hai kiun k quran ka bohat sa hissa jata raha... Hazrat ayesha ne to kamal hi ker diya,unhon ne kaha k pehlay Surah ahzab ki ayaat 200 hua kerti thein lakin jab hazrat usman ne Quran jamah kiya to ab hum uss surah mein kuch bhi nahi patay... Ubai bin kaab ne pocha k Surah Ahzab ki kitni ayaat hain...jawab mila 72 ya 73 to unhon ne kaha k yeh pehlay Surah Baqra jitni hoti thi... Ab aap ki books mein tahreef k saboot mojood hai aur aap hum per ilzam lagatay hain tahreef ka ?? Aap ki book mein to hazrat ayesha ne saaf keh diya k hazrat usman k doar mein Quran mein tahreef hui,ab aap hazrat ayesha per kiya fatwa lagaein ge ?? Itnay ref. bohat hain aap ki aankhein kholnay k liye ya mazeed bhi doon ?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rainbow 333 Posted May 5, 2012 can we not just forget shia sunni thing and live like good muslims who respect each other's beliefs.......hum sab naam k muslims hain blv me koi bi perfect nae aur aaj kal k daur mein tu nothing seems right har aik cheez mein shak hai nukhas hai i wud say stop this argument and start looking and observing urselves k are u really a good human being ....sab sai pehlay aap insan phr muslim and thn pakistani ho shia suni .....huh dun blv in this ......i dobt it k hum mein sai koi 5 wakat ka namazi ho .......ab plz saray taupon ka rukh meri taraf na kr daina .....cos m not shia wagaira ........i just follow Hazrat Muhammad(pbuh)'s hadees ....for guidence even m not perfect but stop calling each other wrong and giving hawalay .........Quran mein i dun thnk so shia suni wagaira ka zikar hai yeh sab kuch humnay khud banaya hua hai ....i always see few memebrs thy never reply to anyother topic but will regularly come here and post images and replies against each other's beliefs ..i wud say sab pehlay dekho k aap achay insan ho kya achay muslim ho kya jo Allah nay hukam dia ya jo Hazart Muahmmad(pbuh) nay farmaya woh poora kia kya ?? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daineee 211 Posted May 5, 2012 can we not just forget shia sunni thing and live like good muslims who respect each other's beliefs.......hum sab naam k muslims hain blv me koi bi perfect nae aur aaj kal k daur mein tu nothing seems right har aik cheez mein shak hai nukhas hai i wud say stop this argument and start looking and observing urselves k are u really a good human being ....sab sai pehlay aap insan phr muslim and thn pakistani ho shia suni .....huh dun blv in this ......i dobt it k hum mein sai koi 5 wakat ka namazi ho .......ab plz saray taupon ka rukh meri taraf na kr daina .....cos m not shia wagaira ........i just follow Hazrat Muhammad(pbuh)'s hadees ....for guidence even m not perfect but stop calling each other wrong and giving hawalay .........Quran mein i dun thnk so shia suni wagaira ka zikar hai yeh sab kuch humnay khud banaya hua hai ....i always see few memebrs thy never reply to anyother topic but will regularly come here and post images and replies against each other's beliefs ..i wud say sab pehlay dekho k aap achay insan ho kya achay muslim ho kya jo Allah nay hukam dia ya jo Hazart Muahmmad(pbuh) nay farmaya woh poora kia kya ?? 100% agreed....u make very gud point...i request to bady bhyiaa k plz remove such postings nvr been allowed to post such things on our forum which divide us and creat sectarian voilence.. this is what we all have to struggle to abolish to keep muslims united and strong... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
omar_khan 0 Posted May 5, 2012 can we not just forget shia sunni thing and live like good muslims who respect each other's beliefs.......hum sab naam k muslims hain blv me koi bi perfect nae aur aaj kal k daur mein tu nothing seems right har aik cheez mein shak hai nukhas hai i wud say stop this argument and start looking and observing urselves k are u really a good human being ....sab sai pehlay aap insan phr muslim and thn pakistani ho shia suni .....huh dun blv in this ......i dobt it k hum mein sai koi 5 wakat ka namazi ho .......ab plz saray taupon ka rukh meri taraf na kr daina .....cos m not shia wagaira ........i just follow Hazrat Muhammad(pbuh)'s hadees ....for guidence even m not perfect but stop calling each other wrong and giving hawalay .........Quran mein i dun thnk so shia suni wagaira ka zikar hai yeh sab kuch humnay khud banaya hua hai ....i always see few memebrs thy never reply to anyother topic but will regularly come here and post images and replies against each other's beliefs ..i wud say sab pehlay dekho k aap achay insan ho kya achay muslim ho kya jo Allah nay hukam dia ya jo Hazart Muahmmad(pbuh) nay farmaya woh poora kia kya ?? Meray bhai aap ki baat sahi hai lakin aap ko yeh post kerni uss waqt yaad kiun nahi aaye jab yeh topic start hua tha aur iss per 20 pages tak comments diye gaye ?? Aap ko bhi to uss waqt sab kuch yaad aaya jab 1 din pehlay mein ne unn k etirazat unhi ki books se sabit kerna start kiya ?? Aap ki baat uss waqt achi lagti jab hanzala ne shirarat start ki thi,ab aap sirf apnay aqeeda ko bachanay ki na-kaam koshish ker rahay hain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daineee 211 Posted May 5, 2012 Meray bhai aap ki baat sahi hai lakin aap ko yeh post kerni uss waqt yaad kiun nahi aaye jab yeh topic start hua tha aur iss per 20 pages tak comments diye gaye ?? Aap ko bhi to uss waqt sab kuch yaad aaya jab 1 din pehlay mein ne unn k etirazat unhi ki books se sabit kerna start kiya ?? Aap ki baat uss waqt achi lagti jab hanzala ne shirarat start ki thi,ab aap sirf apnay aqeeda ko bachanay ki na-kaam koshish ker rahay hain. dear friend! its nvr too ta late .... plz to keep ppl together... taferqaa mat phailain... yahan behas se hum natu kis crux pe agree kersaktey hein na kisis ko convince ker saktey hein...but aik dooosry k khilaaf hatred paidaho g bus....so plz stick to ur faith watever it is (this is btw u n ur Allah who is most mercifyll n kind to us and know beter wat is rite , wat is wrong) n respect other's faith so that we can live in a peacefull society being a gud muslim... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
omar_khan 0 Posted May 5, 2012 Dainee! Kiya aap ko ilm hai k yeh topic july 2005 mein start hua aur ab issay 7 saal ho gaye hain lakin kisi ne bhi admins ko nahi kaha k yeh fitna hai iss topic ko delete kiya jaye lakin jaisay hi mein ne reply kiya sab ko khayal aa gaya k yeh larai aur shirarat hai...aisa kiun hai ?? 7 saal tak kisi ko kiun khayal nahi aaya iss baat k yahan per aik aqeeda k khilaf jhooti baatein mansoob ki ja rahi hain aur unn k khilaf nafrat phelai ja rahi hai ?? Aur aap loagon ne dekha k iss mujrimana khamoshi ka result kiya nikala k pooray pakistan mein shia killing ki ja rahi hai aur qoam khamosh bethi dekh rahi hai jaisay kuch hua hi nahi,uss ki wajah yehi topics hain k inn se loagon k zehan change kiye gaye k shia to musalman hi nahi aur inn ka qatal jaiz hai...ab agar mein iss terha hi topic start karon to kiya be-hiss admins aur members 7 saal tak khamosh rahein ge ?? Aap kiya samajhtay hain k hum inn baaton k jawab nahi de saktay ?? hum na sirf sunni books se jawab de saktay hain balkeh aisi baatein bhi dikha saktay hain k jin ko dekh ker hanzala aur uss k supporters ko moun chupanay ki jagah bhi nahi milay gi... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rainbow 333 Posted May 5, 2012 Meray bhai aap ki baat sahi hai lakin aap ko yeh post kerni uss waqt yaad kiun nahi aaye jab yeh topic start hua tha aur iss per 20 pages tak comments diye gaye ?? Aap ko bhi to uss waqt sab kuch yaad aaya jab 1 din pehlay mein ne unn k etirazat unhi ki books se sabit kerna start kiya ?? Aap ki baat uss waqt achi lagti jab hanzala ne shirarat start ki thi,ab aap sirf apnay aqeeda ko bachanay ki na-kaam koshish ker rahay hain. kasam sai na meinay kabi kisi aur ki posts par tawaja di hai aur na aap ki par .....cos its useless maan jao aap sab .....it was useless making this topic ... meinay aik 2 bar pehlay socha lets make it stop ....but mein ku galiaaan khaoon aur kafir kehlaaai jaoon yahan aap isko ignore kr k kuch acha post karo u will enjoy others will enjoy aswelll........meinay tu kabi yeh topic khola na ekal khola tu m like wow thts a big brawl Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daineee 211 Posted May 7, 2012 bady bhyiaa! plz take alook and make some guide lines for postings like this...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abu_Hanzala 2 Posted May 7, 2012 Dainee! Kiya aap ko ilm hai k yeh topic july 2005 mein start hua aur ab issay 7 saal ho gaye hain lakin kisi ne bhi admins ko nahi kaha k yeh fitna hai iss topic ko delete kiya jaye lakin jaisay hi mein ne reply kiya sab ko khayal aa gaya k yeh larai aur shirarat hai...aisa kiun hai ?? 7 saal tak kisi ko kiun khayal nahi aaya iss baat k yahan per aik aqeeda k khilaf jhooti baatein mansoob ki ja rahi hain aur unn k khilaf nafrat phelai ja rahi hai ?? Aur aap loagon ne dekha k iss mujrimana khamoshi ka result kiya nikala k pooray pakistan mein shia killing ki ja rahi hai aur qoam khamosh bethi dekh rahi hai jaisay kuch hua hi nahi,uss ki wajah yehi topics hain k inn se loagon k zehan change kiye gaye k shia to musalman hi nahi aur inn ka qatal jaiz hai...ab agar mein iss terha hi topic start karon to kiya be-hiss admins aur members 7 saal tak khamosh rahein ge ?? Aap kiya samajhtay hain k hum inn baaton k jawab nahi de saktay ?? hum na sirf sunni books se jawab de saktay hain balkeh aisi baatein bhi dikha saktay hain k jin ko dekh ker hanzala aur uss k supporters ko moun chupanay ki jagah bhi nahi milay gi... Kiya haq ko manzar-e-aam per lana fitna hai???ohh sorry main bhool gaya thaa k shia hazraat k haan haq ko chupana sawaab kehlaya jata hai, Taqia ki taraf ishara hai,, agar aap shia k baatil mazhab sey zera bhi waqif hain tou maloom he hoga is baaray main....hum bilkul ye samajhtay hain k aap in baaton k jawaab nahi dey saktay.....bhayi aap dikhaayein na aisi baatein jo aap k khyaal main humain munh chupanay k qaabil nahi chorray gi....Yahan Shia v/s sunni nahi, bal k Shia v/s Muslim ki discussion ho rahi hai...lihaza aisay hawaalay paish karain jo Quran & Hadis sey mutasadim na hon.....ye ek discussion forums hai, tou as long as people are not abusing or talking without facts i dont think kisi ko bhi band kerna chahiye.....aap humari koi ek post dikha dein jis main hum kisi k saath personal huay ya gaali di? tabarra kerna humara nahi shia hazraat ka shaiwa hai, bal k Sahaba Karam (RA) per tabarra kerna bhi aap k haan sawaab hai....jo k aap logon ne kia........aap ki bhi in saari posts sey ye hi zahir hua, k aap bhi facts per baat kernay k bajaaye ilzaam taraashi or galam galoch per utar aaye.....Amma Ayesha (RA) ne na kabhi Nabi Akram (SAW) ki wafaat per noha kia, chehray per maara peeta, or na kabhi uss k baad,,,,or bil-farz maan bhi liya jaaye k unhon ne aisa kia tou aap Amma Ayesha (RA) k baaqi aqwaal, or aamaal ko follow kiun nahi kertay, sirf matam ko he kiun? Pichlay topics main kiye gaye Shia Aqeedah k baaray main sawalon k jawab tu aaj tak milay nahi, lekin again but again, Few questions from you: aap ka kalma kia hai? Kia aap Quran ko mukammal or kisi bhi tehreef sey pak samajhtay hain? aap ki Sahaba Karam (RA) including Amma Ayesha (RA) k baaray main kia raaye hai? Khilafat k baaray main aap ka aqeedah kia hai? Dil per churi rakh ker ye nick choose kernay ki wajah bata saktay hain? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
