Nice Friend 1 Posted February 15, 2007 first of all welcome to CY i think abdullah we should leave this topic now, nobody would realize that his/her sect is in the wrong way. and in this topic we have already lost our cool member, who started this topic. so leave it. if u have any query thain start a new topic or can ask on "Do u Know" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abu_Hanzala 2 Posted February 16, 2007 (edited) first of all welcome to CY i think abdullah we should leave this topic now, nobody would realize that his/her sect is in the wrong way. and in this topic we have already lost our cool member, who started this topic. so leave it. if u have any query thain start a new topic or can ask on "Do u Know" Assalamoalikum That one thing should be crystal clear that I did not leave CY because of this TOPIC ,i left because of other reasons , i dont want to mention such reasons here...... However I m quite confused about Abu Abdullah's discussion :S Edited February 16, 2007 by Hanzala Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ariba 0 Posted February 16, 2007 "We decided to take topics one by one n there was one discussed.i posted my arguements n did not get any answer from their side...... So topic went un noticed.... U want to ask something about This Topic?? Waqas Posted Yesterday, 05:58 PM Abu Abdullah what you want to say? be clear" Assalam-alaikum Would you be kind enough to send the posts which you did not because there was an absence of a debate. I am concentrating on the descrepancy created in the middle of first, second and third century Hijri. By grace of Allah Subhanhatala, there are people who have got arabic transcripts of earlier "Manazara" Debate. I will get them Inshallah. Allah Subhanahtala ney DEEN mukamal kia beshek. Jaisey key Khutaba Hajatul wida mein Nabi Sallahualehi Walahe wasalm ney farmaya. We need to identify the illusionists who merged greek and persian philosophy in Islam. This is not with only one sect but there numerous people who deliberately created "doubts" in other wise PURE religion. May ALLAH Subhanahtala hamein hidayat naseeb karey-Ameen. Abu Abdullah Another thread!!!BY the Way to whom u r calling "illusionist" n wat do mean by Greek n persian philosphy??? Plz be clear n dont try to create suspense!! And also Just give me whats Defination of Pure Religion according to u.Then i would inshaAllah understand what u r saying If u want to ask anything then just ask it..... Hanzla:>>Wa alikum salam n nice to see u...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mansoor 0 Posted February 18, 2007 Itss Good too see this topic agin ! May Allah make this topic 'light' for us Ameen Apart from listening to our ulmaa... i had some doubts too in my mind and i was searcing a book that could help me. And i got to book , one some time ago and one recently. I will share them with u guys soon Mansoor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abu_Hanzala 2 Posted February 20, 2007 I may continue this Topic soon inshaAllah Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Curious One 0 Posted April 9, 2007 Ibn-e-baboyah ne moutabar sanad k sathHazart Sadaq reh see lambi hasith rawayat ki hai k kisis ne qasamien kha kar Hazart Fatimah ra ko bataya k hazart ali ra abu jahal ki baiti see shadi karne waly hain.app naraz hoo gain aur maiky main agaien.Hazoor saw ne waja pochi to jab sourat-e-hal ka ilm hua tou app ne foran shadi k gawahan ko bulaya phir unk samne hazart Ali ra ko farmaya"Aye ali shaid tou nahin jatna k fatimah mere badan ka tukra hai aur main iss see hoon jis ne isko satay us ne mujhay sataya(jala ul ayoonPg 151) Yeh narazgi b tou rahi naa iss see hazart Ali ka eman rukhsat nahin hua tou phir Hazart Abu bakar k sath aisi dushmani kiun?Hazoor saw ne hazart Ali ra ko yeh tou nahin kaha k tera eman rukhsat hoo gaya hai. For a second incident see bookalal alsharae aur bashar-e-ril Mustafa. Kasahaf ghuma main hai k hazart Fatima ra ne hazoor saw se shikayat ki k jo Hazart ali kamaty hain fuqara main bant daity hain ..............yahan per b narazgi ka qisa lay kar ain tou kis kis k eman per harf aya?? Khod is hadith ko analyze karein, rasool kiya eik jaiz cheez kay karnay say mana kar saktay hai. Rasool nay kiya khod eik say ziada shadia nahi key? Key hai phir woh eik jaiiz cheez say kiyo rokaygay? Nahi bilkol nahi rokaygay to issay sabit hota hai kay yeh jo hadith ka background app bayan kar rahi hai bikol ghalat hai. Mei phelay bhee jawab dey chooka hoon lekin wohee behes. If you don't wanna see the light then what can I do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ariba 0 Posted April 13, 2007 Welcome back to The Topic! Yani k app k khayal main b yeh waqiya ghalat hai?? aur yeh jo apki kitab main likha hai yeh b ghalat hai. Khud analiye karin app b tou bohut kuch clear hoo jaye. Bukhari sharif ki Hadith pe behas shuru hui thi aur uss main"Fatimah mere jigar ka tukra hai jis ne isko eza di us ne mujhy eza di......iss see agay Hazoor SAW k ilfaz manqool hain k main haram ko halal au halal ko haram karne wala nahin magar Rasool-e-khuda aur Dushman-e- Khuda ki baitiyan aik shakh k nikah main ikhathi nahin hoo saktien" Waise agar app iss waqaiye ka inkar kar dein tou phir tou sara jhagra hi khatam hoo jaye. Secondly i want u to analye one thing more: Kiya woh Shakh jisko Nabi SAW ne Sidique ka laqab diya hoo,uski tarbiyat nabbuwat k 23 saal tak sari ki sari nabuwat main Nabi SAW ne ki hoo......... Naouz bi Allah mere AQa moula Hazart Muhammad SAW ki tarbiyat itni naqis thi k App kay inteqal k baad hi Woh shakh jo 23 saal tak app k sath raha ghalat faisly daine lag gaya?Kiya yeh etraz Nabi Saw per nahin ja raha phir tou?Astaghfirullah...... Kiya Agar ye meras wala masla itna eham tha tou mere aur app see ziadah uss shakh ko nahin pata hoo ga jo Hazoor SAW k sath 23 saal tak raha?Ya unk ilawa Baqi Sahaba jo ghalat baat ko sun kar hi talwar utha laity thay unko b nahin pata tha? And put objections that it was Maal e fay aur maal e fay ki tou App haazarat k haan b taqseem nahin hoti.... Yeah I dont want to see ur light thats infact Darkness aur i seeing the light with open eyes n open mind......Fa Lillah he shukar wal Hamid Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Curious One 0 Posted April 13, 2007 Welcome back to The Topic! Yani k app k khayal main b yeh waqiya ghalat hai?? aur yeh jo apki kitab main likha hai yeh b ghalat hai. Agar app yeh expect kar rahi hai kay mei app key baat sirif is liyay man loon kay yeh waqeya humari kitab mei hai to app bhee yehee condition upnay liyay rakhay mei app key kitaboo kay bohat say waqeyat pehlay bhee likh chooka hoon kiya woh sub mannay ko taiyar hai app? Nahi ... kiyo nahi ... kiyonkay kissi baat ka kitab mei hona yeh sabit nahi karta kay woh sahi baat hai. App key kitabo mei bhee bohat kuch hai jo ghalat hai or humari bhee koiee kitab 100% perfect nahi hai. Bus farq itna hai kay hum issi liyay kissi bhee kitab ko "SAHEE" nahi kethya app kethi hai. ....iss see agay Hazoor SAW k ilfaz manqool hain k main haram ko halal au halal ko haram karne wala nahin magar Rasool-e-khuda aur Dushman-e- Khuda ki baitiyan aik shakh k nikah main ikhathi nahin hoo saktien" Eik to yeh hissa mei nay bukhari mei nahi parha lekin farz kar lei kay yeh hai bhee to iska matlab kiya houa kay islam mei insaan ka upna kirdar nahi uskay baap ka kirdar dekha jata hai. Ager dushman-e-khuda key beti bohat naik ho tub bhee ussay dushman key beti hai is liyay saza millaygi? Nahi y eh bilkol ghalat baat hai app khod thanday dil say soochai to app ko bhee nazar ayega. Han agar hota to rasool yeh keh saktay thay kay kafir larki. lekin dushman key larki yeh rasool bilkol keh he nahi saktay kiyonkay rasool to ayee he isliyay thay kay dunya ko samjhayee kay insaan ka upna kardar sub kuch hota hia kiss ka baap hai or kiss ka beta in cheezo say koie farq nahi parta. Issay sabit hota hia kay yeh jo aggay ka hissa app bata rahey hai yeh bhee ghalat hai. Secondly i want u to analye one thing more: Kiya woh Shakh jisko Nabi SAW ne Sidique ka laqab diya hoo,uski tarbiyat nabbuwat k 23 saal tak sari ki sari nabuwat main Nabi SAW ne ki hoo......... Naouz bi Allah mere AQa moula Hazart Muhammad SAW ki tarbiyat itni naqis thi k App kay inteqal k baad hi Woh shakh jo 23 saal tak app k sath raha ghalat faisly daine lag gaya?Kiya yeh etraz Nabi Saw per nahin ja raha phir tou?Astaghfirullah...... Again shayad yeh baat app phelay bhee kar chooki hai. Jub rasool key upni auald ghlaat nikal sakti hai to rasool kay sath rehnay wallay agar ghalat ho jayei to issay rasool pay koie ilzaam nahi atta. Nooh key biwi betay buray niklay to kiya issay Hazrat Nooh key kami sabit hoti hai. Agar app ka standard man lei to issay to Hazrat Nooh pay aiteraz jata hai. App pehay yeh batain soochai phir aggay baat akreingay. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ariba 0 Posted April 23, 2007 Agar app yeh expect kar rahi hai kay mei app key baat sirif is liyay man loon kay yeh waqeya humari kitab mei hai to app bhee yehee condition upnay liyay rakhay mei app key kitaboo kay bohat say waqeyat pehlay bhee likh chooka hoon kiya woh sub mannay ko taiyar hai app? Nahi ... kiyo nahi ... kiyonkay kissi baat ka kitab mei hona yeh sabit nahi karta kay woh sahi baat hai. App key kitabo mei bhee bohat kuch hai jo ghalat hai or humari bhee koiee kitab 100% perfect nahi hai. Bus farq itna hai kay hum issi liyay kissi bhee kitab ko "SAHEE" nahi kethya app kethi hai Ap ne jo aik story paish ki thi uski koe sanad nahin hai....aur app ne bukhari ki Hadith paish ki main ne uska inkar kiya?? Same is for u.agar yeh ghgalat hai to app phir reason dy dein.yeh tou koe baat nahin hai k app siry see hi inkar karty jain k yeh sahi nahin hai.Jala ul Ayoon book app k liye kiya darja rakhti hai yeh to app hi janty hoo phir.Kisi book ko SAhee kehna aur kiun kehna its our personal jo app ki smajh main shaid nahin ayien gay.Sahi ka mtlab kiya kiya hota hai yeh b apko maloom hona zaroori nahin Eik to yeh hissa mei nay bukhari mei nahi parha lekin farz kar lei kay yeh hai bhee to iska matlab kiya houa kay islam mei insaan ka upna kirdar nahi uskay baap ka kirdar dekha jata hai. Ager dushman-e-khuda key beti bohat naik ho tub bhee ussay dushman key beti hai is liyay saza millaygi? Nahi y eh bilkol ghalat baat hai app khod thanday dil say soochai to app ko bhee nazar ayega. Han agar hota to rasool yeh keh saktay thay kay kafir larki. lekin dushman key larki yeh rasool bilkol keh he nahi saktay kiyonkay rasool to ayee he isliyay thay kay dunya ko samjhayee kay insaan ka upna kardar sub kuch hota hia kiss ka baap hai or kiss ka beta in cheezo say koie farq nahi parta. Issay sabit hota hia kay yeh jo aggay ka hissa app bata rahey hai yeh bhee ghalat hai. Logical behas nahin hoo rahi.Hazoor SAW ne kiya kaha?kiun kaha?yeh alag baat hai aur alag behas hai.App mujhy yeh bataein k kiya app iss waqiye ka inkaar karna chah rahy hain??k aisa koe waqaya paish nahin aya? Hazart Fatimah b Hazoor SAW ki baiti thein kiya app un see yeh sab kuch expect kar sakty hoo jo apki books main likha hua hai?kiya wo uss maal k liye jab unko pata b chal gaya k wo maal e Fay hai wo naraz hoo gaien?kiya unko yeh Hadith b poonch gaye k Anibya ka koe waris nahin hota tab b?? aur b bohut see ilzamat apki books main hain jo unk shan-e-shayan nahin hain.wo sab jhoot hain??phir unk likhney waly kiya huay?Khair yeh behas nahin hai behas hoo rahi thi maal e fay aur uss maal per jo Hazoor SAW k pass tha.inn points pe baad main baat hoo gi Again shayad yeh baat app phelay bhee kar chooki hai. Jub rasool key upni auald ghlaat nikal sakti hai to rasool kay sath rehnay wallay agar ghalat ho jayei to issay rasool pay koie ilzaam nahi atta. Nooh key biwi betay buray niklay to kiya issay Hazrat Nooh key kami sabit hoti hai. Agar app ka standard man lei to issay to Hazrat Nooh pay aiteraz jata hai. App mujhy yeh bataien k Hazart Nooh k kitny saathi jo un k sath Kashti main sawar huay thy unko chor kar chal diye??Hazart Esa AH k kitny hawari murtad hoo gay.waise ap Quraan ko manty hoo?Ghoor see parha karin phir.AND mind It yeh koe itna bari baat nahin thi jis see kisi ka emaan khatry main par jaye.Haan jink bary main baat ki hai app ne un k baray main aisi baat karne waloon k eman zaroor khatry main hai. App k hi Allama Majlisi Farmaty hain k Bazurgoon k moumlaat main zaidah dakhal andazi nahin karni chahye aur khamoshi ekhityar karni chahye.....kiya App hazart Fatimah aur unn sahaba jinki Tareef Hazoor SAW ne khud ki unk baray main koe khush gumani nahin rakh sakty? I may reply Late coz of being busy....but i will contnue doing reply..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bugs 0 Posted April 28, 2007 Despite the fact that i in my early posts in this topic if they r still present mentioned that i will not be coming in section any more to discuss on this issue as we muslims as a nation r narrow minded n some one with open mind here is not acceptable , but it hurts me to c that v r still fightin or debating over this ridiculous issue. the answer to the question is shia kafir? is no wana know y ? if they wuld hav been kafir they wuld hav not been allowed to enter haram shareef. till 1950's they even prayed thier in haram shareef with their seperate imam's but that to al-saud now there is only one imam and every one has to follow him. now i don wana get inot who r al-saud that will b a long debate. secondly its the promise by god that in haram shareef no najus can enter, najas meens unpure or simply paleet, so id shia were kafir then how come they r in haram sharif ,let's suppose for a min that some how they hav links n they hav managed to declare them selves muslims nad hav contacts with al-saud n bla bla so that they culd enter haram shrif then wht abt god's promise?. now the question abt persian or greek thing, well as fare as my knowledge is concern shia ppl follow the teachings of Imam Musa Kazim, as muslims we blv in him as well, mind u that i am a sunni muslim n if v say imam musa kazim was wrong its against our own teachings. n ppl plz learn from mistakes u r the next generation , the future is with u u need to unite. let me tell u some thing from history, during hazrat ali's regime we muslims fought with each other on one side hazrat mauvia n on other side hazrat ali, nuqsan kis ka hua muslims ka , then if u reme battle of cammel nuqsan kis ka hua muslims ka, then whwn mongols entered into bagdad slauthered every one river dajla remain red for weeks, u wana know who opened the door of bagdad a muslim as usual v were fitin with each other nuqsan kis ka hua mulims ka, then first world war, arabs fought turks calipahate was lost israel got created nuqsan kis ka hua muslims ka , modern history, afghanistan who fought who msulims fought muslims nuqsan kis ka hua muslims ka, iraq who fought against who nuqsan kis ka hua muslims ka, lebnon who fought against who nuqsan kis ka hua muslims ka, now iran is next then syria n then pakistan so v ppl want to talk n fight on who is muslim n who is kafir wow what hav v learned from history rather 4 get history wht abt recent past after 9 11 come on guys n gals unite , if v unite then v servive else god b mercifull on us. i hope u get the point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nice Friend 1 Posted April 30, 2007 very nice post bugs i m 100% agrees with bugs, v r not here to fight, v r here just 2 discuss the things that r uncleared. no one among us can say U R Kafir. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YaAli 0 Posted October 5, 2007 I am with you, qiyam-ul-hidaya, on your stance againt shia defamation that I have observed in this forum. First of all, anyone is free to ask me anything about shias. I wanted to clear that. Because the best way to rid misconceptions is to have a dialogue. One can notice, that there is an overwhelming majority of sunnis over shias in this forum and as a result some people might be getting misguided. Through a dialogue we can argue this issue and see perspectives of both sides. First of all I would like to address a few misinformation. First is the sajedah of zuljinah, This is haram in everyone's views. Even ours. I dont know where you saw people performing sajedah towards zuljinahs, I can assure you this, they werent shias. All Muslims bow to no one but Allah. I hope this clarifies. Secondly, I do not know where someone was getting 98% of people involved in showbiz are Shias, I can name countless people non-Shias. Also this point was brought up pointlessly, because there are much deep-rooted issues that we should divert our attention to. Shias have the utmost respect for Sahabas. They were the companions of the Prophet and gained education from the most learned man to walk this Earth, RasoolAllah, P.B.U.H. How can someone gaining knowledge from the source of knowledge be misguided. So that is that. However, there were some hypocrites in the Muslim Ummah back then, that joined the Muslim side for other reasons, such as power. We are against those few people. These people had the privilege to be alive during the Prophet's era and failed to utilize this blessing. So lets clear this here, we are against those few individuals. To just go ahead and blame the Shia for being against all of Sahabas is heart-breakingly wrong. After RasoolAllah, P.B.U.H, we should take these Sahabas as example to be better Muslims. Since, in this post I just answered by reading a few posts, however i will continue the other posts by people and keep anwering back. Please Guys, Lets put up front the real reasons that force you to call Shias Kaafir. I have 90% Sunni friends, and have never come accross such a direct attack from Sunnis. I am used to getting verbally attacked by Wahabis, but that race is just a curse on Earth. However, my Sunni brothers and friends have always stand united. There is a Ehtejaj going on in Washington D.C. right now against Saudi Wahabi Muftis' fatwas of destroying Ahl-e-Bayt shrines. In that Ehtejaj, Shia and Sunni brothers and sisters are standing united and protesting. This is an example of the harmony that exists between. To all my fellow Sunni brothers, please look deeper into our ways and research and ask me or a fellow Shia before you start coming up with conclusions against us. I will clarify misconceptions, I guarantee whenever I have the time to read this forum. AllahuAkbar Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gambler1 1 Posted November 29, 2007 Shia Munker-e-Quran kalma-wa-sahaba(rz) Beshak kafir hain tamam Auliya Allah or Charoon Imam ka mukaml Itifaq hai es baat pay k thay r kafir .. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nice Friend 1 Posted December 4, 2007 Its totally wrong, in my opinion na kisi ko bura kaho aur na bura suno...thats it We can't say them..Kafir, bcoz its not yet proved as about Ahmedians Jab ahmedis ka prove hua to unhen kafir kh sakty hen, but its not proved about Shias. Aur kisi ko rahe- haq pay lany ka ye tariqa theek nahi k usay kaho k tum to ho hi ghalat...no its wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gambler1 1 Posted December 7, 2007 Shareyaat main apka ya mera Zati opinionz thori chalngay Nice Friend :) Bhai jessay Ahmadiuon/Mirzaiuon ka prove hoa na woo tu es saddi ki baat hai yeh tu Nasal dar Nasal chalay arahay hain :) check this site www.kr-hcy.com InshahAllah app k Tamam points clear ho jayngay . wsalam Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ali Muawiya 0 Posted December 8, 2007 arey bhai shia to is kainaat ka badtareen kafir hai.. kafir kafir shia kafir jo na maney wo bhi kafir... qadiyani to sirf aik sakhas mirza gulham ahmad qadiyani ko rasool man ker kafir kehlay lekin shia kafir to apni 12 imam ko nabi se afzal maantey hain .... phit ye kiuon kafir nhain.. kafir kafir shia kafir jo na maney wo bhi kafir... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nice Friend 1 Posted December 10, 2007 Gambler jahan tak shariat ki baat hai to yeh kis hadees n Quran ki kis ayat me likha hai k Shia is kafir, gv me only one reference, i would b satisfied. Aur jahan tak Ali Muawiya ki baat hai........ to un logo say baat karna bekaar hai jo sirf apna ap ko sahi kahen aur wo bhi beghair kisis argument k. I m not shia, but i know them very well, one of my close friend is Shia, n i know their rules and concepts very wel, hats why i m giving u arguments. Take care Allah hafiz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ali Muawiya 0 Posted December 23, 2007 qasoor aap aka nhain hai .. ab zara main chand hala jaat paish ker raha is ko aankhain khol ker parh lijye gaa ... zaroor samjh aay gaa... http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/293/sun...iacolourir5.gif http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/7723/su...urgif002ke6.gif http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/7725/su...urgif003hn4.gif http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/10/sunn...urgif004eo0.gif Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
malang009 0 Posted December 31, 2007 Shia Kafir hain bugz ho jis seeney may sidiq ka farooq ka hay ye hi behter k wo seena sada pit ta rahe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gambler1 1 Posted January 15, 2008 (edited) [email=http://www.divshare.com/download/1229125-1ee]http://www.divshare.com/download/1229125-1ee[/email] es link main Ghazi abur rasheed(rh) k opreations k waqat ki live callz ki audio hai suneyh kis tabqay ki nishan dahi karahay hain ??? Shia ki jo napak army k comandos layy gay sab shia thay or Naray Haidri Ya Ali k naray lagtay hoay sangdili ka muzahira ki Lanat in bast...ds pay shia kafir .. Edited January 15, 2008 by Gambler1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gallopers 0 Posted January 17, 2008 what you know about shia's religion how you say that they are kafir Shia belive Allah Shia belive Mohammad PBUH Shia belive Quran Shia belive Sahaba (Faithful but not Munafiqs) how can you says that they are kafir because they respect the family of Holy profit PBUH please tell me that without Darodsharif how you servive in Islam you cant say your prayer without Darodsharif i am available online if you have any question please write me at i_z_tech@live.com khuda haffiz Shahid kazmi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jehan shah 0 Posted January 18, 2008 (edited) Shia Munker-e-Quran kalma-wa-sahaba(rz) Beshak kafir hain tamam Auliya Allah or Charoon Imam ka mukaml Itifaq hai es baat pay k thay r kafir .. zaraa Quraan ki pehlii aayaat to batao-phirr main bata thaa hoon k kaun Quraan ka Munkir hay arey bhai shia to is kainaat ka badtareen kafir hai.. kafir kafir shia kafir jo na maney wo bhi kafir... qadiyani to sirf aik sakhas mirza gulham ahmad qadiyani ko rasool man ker kafir kehlay lekin shia kafir to apni 12 imam ko nabi se afzal maantey hain .... phit ye kiuon kafir nhain.. kafir kafir shia kafir jo na maney wo bhi kafir... aur Waqas i know u ban me again lekin aap ko yeh walii post nazar nahii aain gii..agar main ny aisii aik bhi post ki to u will ban me. kiyaa baat hay aap ki Edited January 18, 2008 by jehan shah Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mansoor 0 Posted January 22, 2008 Jehan, This topic is open for logical discussion, If you have to say any thing you can reply with references from Quran and Sunnah ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jehan shah 0 Posted January 22, 2008 [email=http://www.divshare.com/download/1229125-1ee]http://www.divshare.com/download/1229125-1ee[/email] es link main Ghazi abur rasheed(rh) k opreations k waqat ki live callz ki audio hai suneyh kis tabqay ki nishan dahi karahay hain ??? Shia ki jo napak army k comandos layy gay sab shia thay or Naray Haidri Ya Ali k naray lagtay hoay sangdili ka muzahira ki Lanat in bast...ds pay shia kafir .. apny dil ki aankhain aur apnii zaahirii aankhain aur kaan khol karr jo link diyaa hy usko suno.Bughz aur nafrat main itny andhy ho chuky ho k ambulance siron ki aawaazz bhii aap ab NARAA E HAIDARII aur YAAAAAAAAA ALI lagtii hy... Subhaan Allahh ALI Ki Badshaahii Hy Ali Ism E Ilaahi Hy Har Ik Meezaan Mein Tola Zubaan K Saath Dil Bola Ali Maulaa Ali Maulaa qasoor aap aka nhain hai .. ab zara main chand hala jaat paish ker raha is ko aankhain khol ker parh lijye gaa ... zaroor samjh aay gaa... http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/293/sun...iacolourir5.gif http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/7723/su...urgif002ke6.gif http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/7725/su...urgif003hn4.gif http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/10/sunn...urgif004eo0.gif well jo link aap ny diye hain shia book sy yeh book humaary pass nahii paaii jattiin..agar kisii ko waqii dekhni hoon to yahii book kisii shia book shop yaa library sy jaa k dekh ly. Ashaab k bary main humaary ikhtelaaf maujood hain..aur wo QURAAN O SUNNAT AUR AHAADEETH sy saabit hay Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jehan shah 0 Posted January 22, 2008 Sadam k bary main bohatt kuchh kaha gaya.shaheed mard e mujahid pata nahii kiyaa kiyaa.. zaraa video dekhain.Sadam k baary main aik Wahaabi Muftii Sahab kiyaa farmaaty hain.. Saudi Wahabi Salafi Mufti says Saddam is kafir. many sunna people don't know anythin... about saddam. The biggest wahabi leader says that saddam is a kafir and will go to HELL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
