A Question

[Pray 0]

Assalam o alaikum

Mera sawal hai k kia humen Valentine s Day ko celebrate karna chahiye ya naiiiiii???

agar karna chahiye to kiun karna chahiye?

agar nai to b bataye kiun nai karna chahiye?

[SLLeepyism 0]

sallam

mary pass 2 answer hay

1) yes manana chahiyaa

2) nahi manana chahiyay

[rythm 0]

aey lo yeh kia baat hui

hi sleepyism :hi:

[SLLeepyism 0]

aey lo yeh kia baat hui

hi sleepyism :hi:

hi rythem

this shows that i am so clever agar yes hua then i says ma na to pahlay hi kaha tha if no then i says i am in slleepy mood that time waisay ya buhut soachnay wala kaam hay jo shayad humara kaam nahi bibi aqalmando walay sawal na poocho yaha parr aksar loago ki aqal ghass chrnay gai hay aur wahi par gumm ho chuki hay waisay is sawaal ka jawaab hum jaisay SLLEEPY AUR nadan LOAGO KAY PASS NAHI

[Nice Friend 1]

absolutely not.

Bcoz its not muslim's occasion

[Waqas 48]

Everyone knows its not part of our religion and culture phir b har koi celebrate karega

So the right way to ask others is do you celebrate it or not :)

Just my suggession.

Enjoy

[Pray 0]

Everyone knows its not part of our religion and culture phir b har koi celebrate karega

So the right way to ask others is do you celebrate it or not :)

Just my suggession.

Enjoy

Nai in fact mujay janna tha agar nai karna chahiye to hum log kiun kartay haiinn

or Agar karna chahiye to log kia soch ker ise celebrate kertay hainnn

Or Pak mein ye celebrate kartay hain or Markeet mein mein aisi chezzen kiun hain

jo is se relate karti hain

hi rythem

this shows that i am so clever agar yes hua then i says ma na to pahlay hi kaha tha if no then i says i am in slleepy mood that time waisay ya buhut soachnay wala kaam hay jo shayad humara kaam nahi bibi aqalmando walay sawal na poocho yaha parr aksar loago ki aqal ghass chrnay gai hay aur wahi par gumm ho chuki hay waisay is sawaal ka jawaab hum jaisay SLLEEPY AUR nadan LOAGO KAY PASS NAHI

plzz be serious peoplesssssssss batao app log sahi sahi app ki opinion

[ariba 0]

Obviously NO

I can give u 101 reasons for this "NO".Coming with some soon inshaAllah!

[ariba 0]

Well...........It had been discussed b4 abt its history etc....

I wan to give some clear points for u guys...

Main Thing spread by this occasion is "Fahashi"..........Islam does not allow u to express ur special feelings to any one who is stranger to u according to rules of islam,i meanto say "Namehrum".......

N Quraan says jiska mafhoom hai k un logo ko dardnaak azab ki khushkhabri day do ye pasand karty hain k moumineen main fahashi phail jaye"

Quran ki iss ayat k nazool ka sabub b kuch mukhtalif nahin tha,kafir logon ne ishq ki dastanein suna kar logon ko islam ki taleemat see door karna chaha tha......So I REQUEST TODAY U ALL PLEASE NOT TO BE A PART OF THOSE PPL WHO PROMOTE IT JUST FOR FUN OR FOR SERIOUS PURPOSES.Coz Allah ka azab fun or enjoyment ki terha nahin hai.

Jab hum baymar hoty hain to we go to Docters/specailists.agar khud see koe medicine lay lein to dr sb narz hona shuru hoo jaty hain k baymari bighar gaee.Dr humein bata ta hai k look yeh yeh kaam nahin karna yeh yeh khana nahi khana warna baymari barh jaye gi aur dawa ka asar nahin hoga

But now jab humari Rooh ki baymariyoon ka zikar ata hai ya gunnah sawab ki baat ati hai tou hum khud hi mufti aur moulvi bun jaty hain.....Thats is not fair

Will give some more comments but Ans ur question k Y it is promoted then in pakistan?Answer is WE WANT TO MAKE OUR AND ALLAH'S ENEMY HAPPY BY OUR ACTIONS TO GET SOME SMART PACKAGE TO MAKE OUR LIVES LUXURIOUS.RATHER OUR GOVT PROMOTING IT.BUT ALLAH KA AELAN HAI K YAHOOD AUR NASARA APP SEE KABHI KHUSH NAHIN HOO GAY YAHAN TAK K APP UNKA MAZAHB EKHTIYAR KAR LOO.

so yehi hai woh Roshan khayali jis ka dhandoora ajj kal peeta ja raha hai...............

To be continued..................................

[ariba 0]

Well!!may be someone would say i will use to express my feeling just for those to whom islam permits me like my parents,bros n sisters etc.

I want ot add this occasion has no background for wish above mentioned ppl.if still u want to wish then y on this day??wish them each day when ever u want.but dont wish on that day just to show that u oppose civilization of non muslims.........

[manifest 0]

Thanks to pray for starting this topic for discussing on this issue.

Ariba you are 100% right, we shouldn't celebrate it.

It's prohebitated in Islam but If we think on it that why it is prohebitated than we will find many answers so before asking this question to others we should ask from ourself.

Would anyone allow his/her family member to celebrate Valentines Day?

Everyone knows the answers is "no" so if we don't allow anyone in our home to celebrate it than why should we celebrate Velentines Day.

[ariba 0]

Asalam u Alikum;

I got This as forward mail n i am posting it here for u All.

And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers [Al ‘Imraan 3:85]

Things to discuss

*ORIGIN OF VALENTINES DAY

*Saint Valentine and the Valentine's Day

*ISLAMIC STANCE ON FESTIVAL OF LOVE (VALENTINES DAY)

*Point no 1 An Innovated Christian Ritual

*Point 2 Imitation of the Non-Muslims

*Point no 3 A Road to Zina

*Point no 4 Does Islam Forbid Love

*Point no 5 Love Throughout

*Point no 6 The Luper Calia

*Point no 7 The Identity of Islam

*Point no 8 The Day of Repentance instead of the Valentines Day

*MUSLIM'S ATITUDE TOWARD THE VALENTINE DAY

Unfortunately ,nowadays, we see the Muslim society adopting the western customs happily. We think their rituals as our own. We see the Muslims wishing each other or the non Muslims on Christmas , "MERRY CHRISTMAS". You know what this means ? This means that you are testifying that Harzat Isa (A.S) was crucified.<<NAUZUBILLAH>>. You are testifying something contradicting to the Quran and the Authentic Ahadith <<WAKE UP>>. And the Holy Prophet had already Prophecized that

Abu Sa’eed al-Khudri (may Allaah be pleased with him), narrated that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “You will certainly follow the ways of those who came before you, span by span, cubit by cubit, until even if they were to enter a lizard’s hole, you would follow them.” We said, “O Messenger of Allah, (do you mean) the Jews and Christians?” He said, “Who else?!”

(Mutaffaqun Alayh Bukhari 8:151 Muslim 4:2054)

Similarly, We celebrate (our at least we see our friends celebrating) the VALENTINES DAY.

Don't u think we need to know what actually Valentines day is and Islamic Stance on that?

ORIGIN OF VALENTINES DAY

First of all, we'd like to shed light on the origin of this festival, known as "Valentine Day" or "Festival of Love":

The Festival of Love was one of the festivals of the pagan Romans, when paganism was the prevalent religion of the Romans more than seventeen centuries ago. In the pagan Roman concept, it was an expression of "spiritual love".

There were myths associated with this pagan festival of the Romans, which persisted with their Christian heirs. Among the most famous of these myths was the Roman belief that Romulus, the founder of Rome, was suckled one day by a she-wolf, which gave him strength and wisdom.

The Romans used to celebrate this event in mid-February each year with a big festival.

Saint Valentine and the Valentine's Day

Saint Valentine is the main character in the History of the Valentines day. Although the stories may differ but they somewhat contain St.Valentine, the LOVE affairs and the Christian Church.

NONE OF THESE ARE A PART OF THE MUSLIM CULTURE. Muslims don't believe in Saints or churches or the Love before Marriage.

Here's one story for example

In The Story of Civilization, it says that the Church devised a calendar in which every day was designated as the feast day of one of the saints. In England, Saint Valentine’s Day was to come at the end of winter. When that day came, according to them, the birds mated enthusiastically in the forests, and the young men would put flowers on the windowsills of the homes of the girls whom they loved. (The Story of Civilization by Will Durant, 15/23)

DO YOU FIND ANYTHING CLOSE TO THE ISLAMIC CULTURE IN THIS

It was narrated that ‘Adiy ibn Haatim said: “I came to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) wearing a gold cross around my neck. He said, ‘O ‘Adiy, cast aside this idol.’ And I heard him reciting from Soorat Baraa’ah [al-Tawbah] (interpretation of the meaning): ‘They (Jews and Christians) took their rabbis and their monks to be their lords besides Allaah.’ He said: ‘They do not worship them, but when they permit them something they accept it as permitted, and when they forbid them something they accept it as forbidden.’” (Narrated by al-Tirmidhi and it is a hasan hadeeth).

I think all of us are pretty familiar with the other myths and incidents related to the celebration of this festival. Let us discuss the Islamic Stance on that

ISLAMIC STANCE ON FESTIVAL OF LOVE (VALENTINES DAY)

Valetines day is no where close to the islamic rituals. It is strictly forbidden to celebrate the valentine's day.

Point no 1 An Innovated Christian Ritual

Celebrating Valentine’s Day means resembling or imitating the pagan Romans, then the Christian People of the Book in their imitation of the Romans in something that was not a part of their religion. If it is not allowed to imitate the Christians in things that really are part of their religion – but not part of our religion – then how about things which they have innovated in their religion in imitation of idol-worshippers?!

THIS IS A VERY BIG QUESTION. (Read the Above Paragraph again)

I mean to say celebration of this Valentines day becomes a double sin because it is an INNOVATED CHRISTIAN RITUAL.

It was narrated that ‘Adiy ibn Haatim said: “I came to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) wearing a gold cross around my neck. He said, ‘O ‘Adiy, cast aside this idol.’ And I heard him reciting from Soorat Baraa’ah [al-Tawbah] (interpretation of the meaning): ‘They (Jews and Christians) took their rabbis and their monks to be their lords besides Allaah.’ He said: ‘They do not worship them, but when they permit them something they accept it as permitted, and when they forbid them something they accept it as forbidden.’” (Narrated by al-Tirmidhi and it is a hasan hadeeth).

Point 2 Imitation of the Non-Muslims

Imitating the kuffaar(adopting rituals and dresses particular with them) in general –whether they are idol-worshippers or People of the Book – is haraam, whether that imitation is of their worship – which is the most serious form – or of their customs and behaviour. This is indicated by the Qur’aan and the authentic Ahadith. And it is not difficult to think that Valentine day is a ritual particular with them when we see its origin.

“Whoever imitates a people is one of them.” (narrated by Ahmad, 2/50; Abu Dawood, 4021)

Point no 3 A Road to Zina

The love referred to in this festival ever since the Christians revived it is romantic love outside the framework of marriage. The result of that is the spread of zinaa (fornication and adultery) and immorality. Hence the Christian clergy opposed it at some stage and abolished it, then it came back again.

Most of the young people celebrate it because it lets them fulfil their desires, without thinking of the issues of imitation and resembling that are involved. Look at this tragedy, where they go so far as to commit major sins such as zinaa and the like, by imitating the Christians in something which is part of their worship and which may even be kufr

Point no 4 Does Islam Forbid Love

There is no religion which encourages its followers to love and care for one another more than Islam does. This applies at all times and in all circumstances, not just on one particular day. Indeed, Islam encourages us to express our emotions and love at all times, as the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “If a man loves his brother, let him tell him that he loves him.” (narrated by Abu Dawood, 5124; al-Tirmidhi, 2329; it is saheeh).

And he said: “By the One in Whose hand is my soul, you will not enter Paradise until you truly believe, and you will not truly believe until you love one another. Shall I not tell you of something that, if you do it, you will love one another? Spread (the greeting of) salaam amongst yourselves.” (Narrated by Muslim, 54)

Love in Islam is more general and more comprehensive; it is not restricted only to one kind of love, that between a man and a woman. There are many more kinds of love. There is the love of Allaah, love of His Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and his companions (may Allaah be pleased with them), love for good and righteous people, love and support for the religion, love of martyrdom for the sake of Allaah. There are many kinds of love. It is a dangerous mistake to restrict this broad meaning to this one kind of love.

A TRUE MUSLIM LOVES ALLAH THE MOST

Point no 5 Love Throughout

Islam does recognize happy occasions that bring people closer to one another, and add spice to their lives. However, Islam goes against blindly imitating the West regarding a special occasion such as Valentine’s Day. Hence, commemorating that special day known as the Valentine’s Day is an innovation or bid`ah that has no religious backing. Every innovation of that kind is rejected, as far as Islam is concerned. Islam requires all Muslims to love one another all over the whole year, and reducing the whole year to a single day is totally rejected.

Point no 6 The Luper Calia

Consider Valentine's Day, a day that after dying out a well deserved death in most of Europe (but surviving in Britain and United States) has suddenly started to emerge across a good swath of Muslim countries. Who was Valentine? Why is this day observed? Legends abound, as they do in all such cases, but this much is clear: Valentine's Day began as a pagan ritual started by Romans in the 4th century BCE to honor the god Lupercus. The main attraction of this ritual was a lottery held to distribute young women to young men for "entertainment and pleasure"--until the next year's lottery. Among other equally despicable practices associated with this day was the lashing of young women by two young men, clad only in a bit of goatskin and wielding goatskin thongs, who had been smeared with blood of sacrificial goats and dogs. A lash of the "sacred" thongs by these "holy men" was believed to make them better able to bear children.

Christianity tried to stop the evil celebration of Lupercalia. Its only success was in changing the name from Lupercalia to St. Valentine's Day

Point no 7 The Identity of Islam

Further, Islam is very sensitive about maintaining its purity and the unique identity of its followers. Islamic laws and teachings go to extra lengths to ensure it. Salat is forbidden at the precise times of sunrise, transition, and sunset to eliminate the possibility of confusion with the practice of sun worship. To the voluntary recommended fast on the tenth of Muharram, Muslims are required to add another day (9th or 11th) to differentiate it from the then prevalent Jewish practice. Muslims are forbidden to emulate the appearance of non-Muslims.

Point no 8 The Day of Repentance instead of the Valentines Day

A Muslim is a Muslim for life. During joys and sorrows, during celebrations and sufferings, we must follow the one straight path --- not many divergent paths. It is a great tragedy that under the constant barrage of commercial and cultural propaganda from the forces of globalization and the relentless media machine, Muslims have begun to embrace the Valentines, the Halloween ghost, and even the Santa Claus. Given our terrible and increasing surrender to paganism the only day we should be observing is a day of mourning. Better yet it should be a day of repentance that could liberate us from all these days.

MUSLIM'S ATITUDE TOWARD THE VALENTINE DAY

>>1<<

A muslim should not celebrate it, or join others in their celebrations of it, or attend their celebrations, because of the evidence quoted above which shows that it is forbidden to celebrate the festivals of the kuffaar.

>>2<<

He should not help the kuffaar in their celebrations, because it is one of the rituals of kufr, so helping them and approving of what they do is helping them to manifest kufr and make it prevail, and approving of it.

>>3<<

We should not accept congratulations on Valentine’s Day, because it is not a holiday or an Eid for the Muslims. If the Muslim is congratulated on this occasion, he should not return the congratulations.

>>4<<

We should repent in this DAY if he had been celebrating the Valentines day in our past

>>5<<

We must explain the true nature of this holiday and other festivals of the kuffaar to those Muslims who have been deceived by them, and explain to them that it is essential for the Muslim to be distinguished by his religion and to protect his belief (‘aqeedah) from anything that may damage it.

>>6<<

Here I would like to mention doing any of the things which are particular with this day like exchange of flowers, red bands, roses, red clothes and singing and dancing will be like the imitation of the west and its like inviting the wrath of ALLAH.

[sobe 12]

i can't beleive in 6 years pakistan has change so much

[Dako 0]

society hum say hai...woh kahtay hain na keh..hum zmanay say hain zmanay n aeh hum say

shayed galut likh diay :P

meray khyal say..ager insaan..acha kaam na kray....pr galut kaam bhe na kray...to ballay bally

[mansoor 0]

Good work Ariba ! :)

I just hate ppl who celebrate this idiotic stupidity valatine's day !

[rukh 25]

soraj agar samnay ho or koi poochay din hay ya nahi to us ko jawab dayna baykaar hay

so i save my comments ; )

[Dako 0]

Aik question m eray zahen main beh aya....keh why we hate valentines day?????????????? heheh i think now i am behaving like a critic :P so answer plz